 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN kudos:2 Reviews:
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Re: pot meet kettle said by gar187er:if thats the case, cable cos should have access to the sunday ticket.... The cable companies had a crack at Sunday Ticket, but they didn't bid high enough for the NFL to grant them access. Also, it's the NFL who owns the game broadcast rights who is interested in keeping access to Sunday Ticket somewhat limited so that it doesn't erode the value of their local market broadcast contracts. |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by espaeth:said by gar187er:if thats the case, cable cos should have access to the sunday ticket.... The cable companies had a crack at Sunday Ticket, but they didn't bid high enough for the NFL to grant them access. Also, it's the NFL who owns the game broadcast rights who is interested in keeping access to Sunday Ticket somewhat limited so that it doesn't erode the value of their local market broadcast contracts. WRONG. Cable hasn't had a chance to bid on Sunday Ticket in well over a decade. Every few years DirecTv asks how much to keep Sunday Ticket exclusive the NFL quotes them a price and DirecTv pays it. If that's the only way DirecTv can get and keep customers says A LOT about their overal product. It must really suck. |
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 | said by BF69:said by espaeth:said by gar187er:if thats the case, cable cos should have access to the sunday ticket.... The cable companies had a crack at Sunday Ticket, but they didn't bid high enough for the NFL to grant them access. Also, it's the NFL who owns the game broadcast rights who is interested in keeping access to Sunday Ticket somewhat limited so that it doesn't erode the value of their local market broadcast contracts. WRONG. Cable hasn't had a chance to bid on Sunday Ticket in well over a decade. Every few years DirecTv asks how much to keep Sunday Ticket exclusive the NFL quotes them a price and DirecTv pays it. If that's the only way DirecTv can get and keep customers says A LOT about their overal product. It must really suck. I don't think comcast even has the room for 15 HD part time channels and one of the NFL rules for biding was all games in HD.
And what about other cable co's SEE 2-4 HD* games a week on NFL sunday ticket from in demand. With no HD games on NBA LP, MLB EI, NHL CI, or any PPV HD events at the same time.
* Late games are HD JIP. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN kudos:2 Reviews:
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| reply to BF69 said by BF69:WRONG. Cable hasn't had a chance to bid on Sunday Ticket in well over a decade. They were in contract negotiations just last year, as this post alludes -- it's just that the cable companies didn't want to pony up a competing $1bn/year bid for access to Sunday Ticket.
said by BF69: If that's the only way DirecTv can get and keep customers says A LOT about their overal product. It must really suck. DirecTV owns the sports broadcasting market. I couldn't care less about NFL and Sunday Ticket, but for HD coverage for NHL Center Ice and MLB coverage there isn't a better provider out there.
This is a competitive advantage, no different than AT&T giving Apple truckloads'o'cash for iPhone exclusivity. Apple pitched the phone to all the carriers, but only AT&T was willing to accept the device on Apple's terms. |
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 gar187erI do this for a living join:2006-06-24 Dover, DE kudos:1 | reply to espaeth said by espaeth:said by gar187er:if thats the case, cable cos should have access to the sunday ticket.... The cable companies had a crack at Sunday Ticket, but they didn't bid high enough for the NFL to grant them access. Also, it's the NFL who owns the game broadcast rights who is interested in keeping access to Sunday Ticket somewhat limited so that it doesn't erode the value of their local market broadcast contracts. and guess what?!?! comcast has the rights to comcast sportsnet! so they should be able to dictate who can broadcast it |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN kudos:2 Reviews:
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1 edit | said by gar187er:and guess what?!?! comcast has the rights to comcast sportsnet! so they should be able to dictate who can broadcast it Each team franchise negotiates their TV broadcast rights for their local market. There are really only 2 places in the country that this dispute is taking place:
New York -- The Dolan family owns CableVision, the Madison Square Garden Building, MSG Broadcast networks, and they own the Knicks (NBA) and Rangers (NHL) sports teams.
MSG has expanded to regional coverage including NJ and upstate NY, so they actually distribute the SD version of their channel relatively fairly, but they have been keeping close distribution of their HD channel to CableVision and cable providers who don't have a competing service footprint.
Philadelphia -- In the case of Comcast SportsNet Philly, the channel is owned 66% by Comcast and 33% by the Phillies MLB team. Comcast owns the Flyers (NHL) and 76ers (NBA), so with all 3 franchises having a financial stake in Comcast SportsNet Philly obviously they all have exclusive carriage with just that network.
So you have cable companies that own sports teams that in turn develop exclusive broadcast contracts on the sports network owned by the same parent company. |
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 | But that's the issue. They don't have exclusive contracts. MSG and MSG+ are sold to Comcast, TWC, RCN and even DirecTV.
CSN Philly is sold to RCN and FiOS.
If both companies had refused to sell to anyone, they'd have a much better case for withholding the channels. |
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