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ironwalker
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reply to me1212

Re: wtf is wrong with my hard drive????

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Turn off System Restore and Disable the Volume Shadow Copy Service.
Worst advice ever.
System restore is a must have for simple restores. Especially for non technical users who have a hard time comprehending how an OS works.

I'd check all your programs for logging and also use something like WinDisStat to see what exactly is using all the space, it will give you a good starting point on where to look. Logs are sometimes turned on by default on some programs and take up space. temp files and directories would be the next culprit.

When you have time get the Microsoft inside out edition books on windows 7 from the bookstore. Load the pdf version that comes with it on your desktop....use this as the number one resource when researching questions pertaining to the OS and errors or just general questions. Learn to use a manual as a tool, it is the number one tool in my arsonal next to the many search engines out there.
Windows vista/7 definatly does things differently.....just have a look at how many tasks ruin task manager in vista/7. I myself believe all microsoft os' had so many tasks running in the background and vista/7 now just allows access to the tasks for manipulation or log research which is great imo.

I am an analytical brained person, I love figureing things out, was an auto technician my first 10yrs in the work field and now fix pc's as a hobby on the side. The first thing taught in auto vo-tech high school was the number one tool in a mechanics toolbox should be the reference manuals. learn to read them, use them and keep them clean....my instructor was right. i hold reference manuals as my number one tool in any are of life physically or mentally if needed.
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joako
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I ALWAYS turn off System Restore since this "feature" was introduced in Windows ME. Having it disabled never caused me a problem.
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La Luna
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Disabling it won't "cause" a problem. However, it could become a problem if and when you might need it. It can absolutely come in handy occasionally.

Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice.


tdumaine

join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA

said by La Luna:

Disabling it won't "cause" a problem. However, it could become a problem if and when you might need it. It can absolutely come in handy occasionally.

Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice.
That is a matter of opinion. I also see system restore as useless. If you want that functionality, use software intended for it, not MS's hokey implementation of it.

dave
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said by tdumaine:

If you want that functionality, use software intended for it, not MS's hokey implementation of it.
Please explain why it is 'hokey'. Technical reasoning?

My own opinion: tha snapshot feature ('previous versions') is worth a lot. You probably never ever need it. But if you do (say, you delete a file that you didn't want to delete), it is invaluable. It's insurance, and cheap.


cork1958
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said by tdumaine:

said by La Luna:

Disabling it won't "cause" a problem. However, it could become a problem if and when you might need it. It can absolutely come in handy occasionally.

Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice.
That is a matter of opinion. I also see system restore as useless. If you want that functionality, use software intended for it, not MS's hokey implementation of it.
+1

But, yeah, I'd say you have system restore set to the maximum size, which is WAY to large, especially on todays huge drives!!
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tdumaine

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reply to dave

said by dave:

said by tdumaine:

If you want that functionality, use software intended for it, not MS's hokey implementation of it.
Please explain why it is 'hokey'. Technical reasoning?

My own opinion: tha snapshot feature ('previous versions') is worth a lot. You probably never ever need it. But if you do (say, you delete a file that you didn't want to delete), it is invaluable. It's insurance, and cheap.
Use system restore to try and "fix" something and hope it doesnt change more than you want. If it does, let the fun begin.

My post was mostly that system restore is not the gospel and should not be treated as such.

I thought it rather rude La Luna said "Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice." Considering not knowing the experience level of other users, that's a pretty broad judgement of someone else.


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said by tdumaine:

I thought it rather rude La Luna said "Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice." Considering not knowing the experience level of other users, that's a pretty broad judgement of someone else.
Which is exactly why OTHERS shouldn't be telling people to disable system restore! For those who aren't very experienced, system restore can absolutely be helpful to them.

I think it's rude for people to pass on incorrrect information that some may believe.
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tdumaine

join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA

said by La Luna:

said by tdumaine:

I thought it rather rude La Luna said "Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice." Considering not knowing the experience level of other users, that's a pretty broad judgement of someone else.
Which is exactly why OTHERS shouldn't be telling people to disable system restore! For those who aren't very experienced, system restore can absolutely be helpful to them.

I think it's rude for people to pass on incorrrect information that some may believe.
Have you never seen or heard of the horrors called system restore?

Here, let me google that for you

»www.google.com/search?client=fir···e+Search

dave
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reply to tdumaine

said by tdumaine:

Use system restore to try and "fix" something and hope it doesnt change more than you want.
Sure, I don't view system restore as 'safe to use' under all circumstances, but I don't think it's a good idea to turn it off.

(I don't think it's safe to have someone spray my house with a firehose, but I still retain that as a possibility).

To me, 'system restore' is the step I'd choose to use prior to a bare-metal restore from backup. If it works, I've just saved myself a little hassle having to boot the restore DVD. If not, I didn't lose anything.

But that was scarcely my point. Leave system restore on because of file system snapshots. 'Previous versions' is the single simplest way to do onesy-twosy restores of files and directories. Right-click, properties, restore, done.

Yes, I have actual backups as well.


alchav

join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA

reply to tdumaine

said by tdumaine:

said by La Luna:

said by tdumaine:

I thought it rather rude La Luna said "Saying you disable it is fine; advising others to do so is poor advice." Considering not knowing the experience level of other users, that's a pretty broad judgement of someone else.
Which is exactly why OTHERS shouldn't be telling people to disable system restore! For those who aren't very experienced, system restore can absolutely be helpful to them.

I think it's rude for people to pass on incorrrect information that some may believe.
Have you never seen or heard of the horrors called system restore?
Hey Guys, how did you get off the subject, there is nothing wrong with System Restore I use it all the time to fix basic problems. I just used it today to fix a Yahoo Messenger problem. It's a good Tool to use, but it's good to know what you are doing. I think it is off the subject having to do with Disk Space, but I think we need more answers from the OP.


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quote:
Have you never seen or heard of the horrors called system restore?
System Restore is quite useful!

One day my mom was on the XP upstairs and all of a sudden she said popups started coming all over the screen... I went in and that fake "Anitvirus Pro 2009" had installed.... I told my mom NOT TO PANIC... I did a SYSTEM RESTORE and the computer was fine!! (Quite lucky that SYSTEM RESTORE was not disabled,i heard since of others getting this fake 2009 thing and it disables SYSTEM RESTORE making it impossible to easily get rid of it..... (Maybe cause i got it within minutes of the program installing i dont know))


Mdoc
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reply to dave

said by dave:

...it is invaluable. It's insurance, and cheap.
You'd make a bad salesman...lol

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