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Frydays

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top 5 safest and most secure email providers ?

what are the top 5 most secure email providers around free or pay name the top 5 please


KodiacZiller
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Define "secure."



Frydays

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so secure not even the fbi can read my stuff


nonymous
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Here is my bet. All the big names will have issues. Most will love some obscure smaller players most have never heard of. Reason they feel safer is these smaller providers have great terms of services and great policies. Thing is to me some are so small there is no over site and just because they sound great on paper really means?
I use some of those evil free big providers and have no issues. Just uncheck a few boxes and personally have never had anything bad happen after many years. YMMV Thing is they are so big and so many users anything goes wrong and you will hear about it. So to me in a way that is better as there is over site.
One I use my own domain I got from godaddy. It is G_____ apps free. Even my University and other businesses use their paid version.

Now if you really need secure run your own email server.
For the FBI encrypt all your email. Forget any place secure for the FBI as they will just use a warrant. So encrypt on your own computer before sent and let the reciever decrypt it and Vica versa. Run your own server and encrypt it. Set trip wires so if FBI shows up computer is melted. No backups.
Or never put anything in writing you do not want read.



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said by Frydays:

so secure not even the fbi can read my stuff
That is not the e-mail provider's job. That is your job. You need to encrypt your e-mails using PGP if you want to "stop the FBI from reading" your messages. Your contacts will all have to use PGP too, of course. I use an open-source version of PGP called GnuPG and encrypt my e-mails occasionally (depending on the contact).

As far as the e-mail provider, it doesn't much matter. Gmail is as good as any as far as I am concerned. Their spam filters are top notch.
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Logan 5
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To add to what's already been said:

Unless you have total control over the email process at both ends, there's no way to be 100% certain that any of the 3 letter agencies (DHS, NSA, CIA, DOJ etc...) wouldn't be able to compromise your communications and read the contents.

You do realize that they could just simply tap your connection at some point other then your computer & intercept your unencrypted mail and data with relative ease don't you?

You'd never know it was happening until it was Waaaayy to late to do anything about it.

STRONG encryption end to end coupled with running your own mail server and not depending on an ISP do do the work of securing your email/network for you are the only things that will make your email reasonably secure from prying eyes....

Remember, if they think you have or know something and they want it bad enough they will turn your life upside down in the process of getting it no matter how much you try to secure things if you are involved in something that interests them....



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+1

I've heard hushmail is pretty good, but these days, most ANY provider is susceptible to a warrant or a nat'l security type letter. Just look at the recent takedowns...

Maybe OP needs to go live in Finland?
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Yup. You don't own the pipes, they do.



KodiacZiller
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said by caffeinator:

Yup. You don't own the pipes, they do.
Anyone can own the pipes. Most communication on the net is not encrypted. Anyone can sniff the packets if they are in the right position.

The answer is to use strong encryption to stop the snooping, and the best way to do that, where e-mail is concerned, is to use PGP/GPG. Create an RSA key pair of at least 2048 bits and you're ready to go.
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Velnias

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There is no such as secure email providers. Why do you think, companies like Google, spend a lot of money to maintain "free" email servers? But if you want one, you need search for email providers in more democratic countries, like (no, not USA, Iran, China, Russia and most EU countries) Iceland and Sweden.



Ronnie_USA
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reply to Frydays
Your SOL, there is no such thing.



Frydays

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reply to caffeinator
ok some of you read what i said an went somewhere else with it ok heres what i need from a email provider

1.good almost perfect spam filter
2. ability to block emails from ever 1 on the net or something close to it
3. cheap if i have to pay

good security so i can get the receips from stuff i buy online an bank stuff u know secure enough that no 1 can get in an steal my credit card numbers or personal info



Tempus45
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Even PGP has its limitations. If served with a warrant, the Feds would have the capability to intercept key strokes and computer snapshots. I am a firm believer that security software nowadays have a back door that allow law enforcement to circumvent any security measures and precautions.
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chrisretusn
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said by Frydays:

good security so i can get the receips from stuff i buy online an bank stuff u know secure enough that no 1 can get in an steal my credit card numbers or personal info
Never send credit card information via email. Receipts that are sent out after an on-line purchase do not contain complete CC number only partial. If there are sending you receipts with full information then stop doing business with them.
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Jameson
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My Exchange server sitting in my house.



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said by Frydays:

so secure not even the fbi can read my stuff
I'd worry more about the NSA.

Run your own email server, locally hosted (like, in your house) and then the FBI will need to knock down your door, er, show you the warrant before they confiscate your server and read your mail.

Of course, your email is sent all over the place, and unless you encrypt it (as others point out) then it doesn't matter where it's stored as anyone can read the packets if they have access to the pipes. Access to the pipes is easy.

Oh, and be sure to tell everyone who sends you email to encrypt their email too.
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Mchart
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NSA (Or any DoD agency for that matter) is bound by the law to not touch *anything* that has to do with any 'five eyes' citizens. The caveat to that is unless it has been legally deemed that said person is a threat to said national entities.

So while the NSA may or may not have the capabilities to crack your stuff - They can't. On top of that, i'm fairly certain they have bigger fish to fry.
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said by Frydays:

ok some of you read what i said an went somewhere else with it ok heres what i need from a email provider

1.good almost perfect spam filter
2. ability to block emails from ever 1 on the net or something close to it
3. cheap if i have to pay

good security so i can get the receips from stuff i buy online an bank stuff u know secure enough that no 1 can get in an steal my credit card numbers or personal info
I have my own domain with a very good host located in a top-tier datacenter. I create my own accounts, and use my own choice of mail scripts on my own server. All SSL, no .JS allowed.

I also have custom SpamAssassin rules, use DomainKeys, SPF Records, and the host uses Enterprise-Level Filtering Hardware.

It's good enough for normal email. If I need be I can send encrypted as well using my own 256 bit AES (1024 bit RSA/SHA) SSL cert. I don't need much more.

I could use GnuPGP....but considering I don't know anyone who'd know how to receive that sort of mail...it's kinda useless.

I haven't even used an email client on a computer since about 2007. No worries here.
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nonymous
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I still like the free google apps with my own domain.

Like someone else said receipts should not include your whole credit card number. Bank info the same. You just need to point your records at wherever you bought your domain to google apps for the email. Relatively simple. Nowhere near setting up your own server and did I say it s free. You can get your email online or use POP or IMAP .
With common sense it is secure enough for me. Like said I never send a credit card number in whole through the email.
Some may chime in about privacy etc. Yet Google has way more money than me and stealing my email would be less than nothing for them.
I have my own domain and Google tends to have very good spam blocking and other mail routing features.
So with say a cheap Godaddy domain and the free Google Apps you would to me have a very nice setup.
Then if you get more knowledgeable you can set up your own hosted server later.



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said by KodiacZiller:

said by caffeinator:

Yup. You don't own the pipes, they do.
Anyone can own the pipes. Most communication on the net is not encrypted. Anyone can sniff the packets if they are in the right position.

The answer is to use strong encryption to stop the snooping, and the best way to do that, where e-mail is concerned, is to use PGP/GPG. Create an RSA key pair of at least 2048 bits and you're ready to go.
This seems the best bet. 2048 seems a bit over kill though. Not sure about this but isn't over a certain bit illegal for "communication"?
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