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| We knew this already... Anyone who is surprised by this statement has been living in a fairyland.
Everyone since the first BBS's have known that eventually the concept of a "UserName" would disappear. Look at Blizzards recent attempt at the "Real Name" system to cut down on forum trolls. This was just a small part of the work that corporations and Governments will be doing over the next few years.
The Time of the Wild West on the internet is ending. Law-n-Order (or what ever you want to call it) will be settling in soon. Get use to it.
In the future the only way to make sure people don't know who you are online will be to do it the old fashion Sci-Fi way... become a "Mr X" who hides out and makes pirate video broadcasts across the globe.
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| said by Devanchya:In the future the only way to make sure people don't know who you are online will be to do it the old fashion Sci-Fi way... become a "Mr X" who hides out and makes pirate video broadcasts across the globe. Actually, I have no problem with non-anonymous availability of info to ISP; NSA; police authorities; etc. But I do have a problem with every yahoo on the internet knowing my real name; addr; phone number; etc. Too many sickos out there to not have anonymous access to internet web sites; bulletin boards; comments at newspapers; etc.
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good luck tracking me. Most of the time i posted by borrowing wifi. Usernames are on most boards are different. In reality tracking me is hard. |
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kudos:5 | said by silentlooker:good luck tracking me. Most of the time i posted by borrowing wifi. Usernames are on most boards are different. In reality tracking me is hard. In reality, you're not that interesting.      (j/k)
Seriously, though, few of us are really "worth" tracking (and I don't include myself among them). Unfortunately, the cost to track us and store information about us is dropping like a rock and approaches zero relatively quickly. Even though I could find out that you were searching about how to make a Mentos and Diet Coke bomb when you were a teenager, would that even be relevant?
I really hope Karl is wrong here. If he's not, we're going to have to rethink what we do with this storehouse of "knowledge." (scare quotes intended)
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| I think it all becomes immeasurably less spooky if what's being collected is entirely transparent, consumers are given the tools they need to manage their online identities, and we have effective regulatory protections in place for abuse.
Just in case I gave the impression I'm entirely defeatist on the issue. |
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Lion84
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Marietta, GA | reply to funchords
What is more of a problem is if someone could come along and "create" data that appears "official" and then that could be used against you. Similar to a TSA agent slipping a little "something" into a bag just to make someone's day interesting (which if memory serves actually happened at the Philadelphia airport earlier this year). |
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 danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | reply to Devanchya
The keyword there, about Blizzard, is *attempt*. They angered so many users they backtracked away from the idea after a few days. I'm an avid WoW player, and I followed the thread with great interest, and was extremely opposed to the idea.
Most things on the internet do not need your real name attached to them. When you walk into a physical store, you don't automatically broadcast your full name and other personal details to them. You might carry an ID on you, but, if you're just shopping at Target, for instance, no one knows your real name just by looking at you. You can pay in cash, and go on your merry way with your purchases. No one knows who you are. If you commit a crime while there, they'll have certain information about you that helps them track you down - your footage on a security camera, a license plate number from your car in the parking lot - but they don't directly have your real name. Neither does that random person you meet in the bar, have a one night stand with, never give your name to, and never see again.
That's what bugs me about the comparisons to how we have no anonymity in the real world. Sure we do. No one walks around with their name plastered on their shirt or glowing above their head in neon letters. In some ways, you almost have more anonymity, because if you pay in cash for everything, you really are off the grid. Everything we do under our online personas is already attached to usernames/usernames and can be traced back to an ISP. Whenever we participate in an online forum like this, or buy something, some kind of identifying information is available about us. Not so in the "real world". I can have conversations with people I don't know and never reveal my identity. Do you announce your name and address to the person you pass on the bike trail and stop to discuss the weather with? Highly unlikely. Short of following the person to see where they live, or asking their name, you'll never know who they are.
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I like your attitude, everyone else who just "let's" there Constitutional Rights sink down the drain sickens me!!!! Land of the Free - ha! What a bunch of Fuck'n BullShit - I blame the people for being slackers and truly being Un-American!!! This nation is too celebrity-driven, narcissistic, hysterical, xenophobic FUCKERS!!!!! TV is also to blame, it has insulated the masses to such a degree, that as a nation we just ignore all that is repulsive. Therefore, I ask you, how do you truly make informed decisions when you only get part of the story? The FCC in its recent secret meetings with big Verizon, AT&T, Google, etc,. Not to mention world events, Israel/Palestine conflict, we're to cozy with Israel, and as such we only get a one way story! That's a fact!!! |
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said by danawhitaker:Most things on the internet do not need your real name attached to them. When you walk into a physical store, you don't automatically broadcast your full name and other personal details to them. You might carry an ID on you, but, if you're just shopping at Target, for instance, no one knows your real name just by looking at you. You can pay in cash, and go on your merry way with your purchases. No one knows who you are. If you commit a crime while there, they'll have certain information about you that helps them track you down - your footage on a security camera, a license plate number from your car in the parking lot - but they don't directly have your real name. Neither does that random person you meet in the bar, have a one night stand with, never give your name to, and never see again. That's what bugs me about the comparisons to how we have no anonymity in the real world. Sure we do. No one walks around with their name plastered on their shirt or glowing above their head in neon letters. In some ways, you almost have more anonymity, because if you pay in cash for everything, you really are off the grid. Everything we do under our online personas is already attached to usernames/usernames and can be traced back to an ISP. Whenever we participate in an online forum like this, or buy something, some kind of identifying information is available about us. Not so in the "real world". I can have conversations with people I don't know and never reveal my identity. Do you announce your name and address to the person you pass on the bike trail and stop to discuss the weather with? Highly unlikely. Short of following the person to see where they live, or asking their name, you'll never know who they are. How do you trace someone when they are using open wifi? Where i am sitting right now, i can see 6 open wifi to which i can connect. How do you trace someone in that case? |
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danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | Open wifi at home, or at a public place? If it's a public place, and I were with law enforcement, I'd contact the businesses in question and check security footage in and around the vicinity of the open wifi for people who might be accessing the system. If it were in a residential area, and I were investigating a crime, I'd try to get any information I could from the owner of the connection about who was accessing it at that time. I maybe couldn't find you specifically, directly, but I could sure narrow down the search.
You're in the minority. Most people aren't doing that. Most people have some kind of stable internet connection, at home, at work, etc. Though, I admit, that's definitely undergoing a shift as people get more and more mobile devices like iPhones and iPads. But with the sheer number of cameras around, I'd never be arrogant enough to assume no one could have at least a start on tracking me down. You're still leaving a trail on whatever connection you *were* using.
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If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around.
Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! |
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| said by ZachAttack:If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around. Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! Mac address easy to change so that is kind of hard. It's true that following everyone around is nearly impossible. |
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You might want to think you're anonymous and maybe you are more so than the average user, but given enough time and computing power a discernible pattern will emerge regarding your online activities resulting in you being traced just like anyone else would. Only difference is it might take a bit longer. |
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Damn, man. That was impressive how you turned that into a rant about Israel. Well done. |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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Onion, NJ | reply to silentlooker
said by silentlooker:said by ZachAttack:If you're really interested in tracking someone, you can track someone by MAC Address or by physical surveillance. Like someone else said were all so boring it's not worth it, besides I don't think the FBI has enough manpower to follow everyone around. Speaking of name glowing in neon above your head, awesome novels by Daniel Suarez, Daemon and Freedom™ have names floating above people's heads. Haha! Mac address easy to change so that is kind of hard. It's true that following everyone around is nearly impossible. Until you log into your email, and give away the store.
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AP
Basketball Coach Nailed in Sex Scandal by Internet
September 12, 2010 -- Bryan Wisher, head basketball coach at Eastern University, was fired yesterday after a FBI sting found he was a client of a call girl service. His Google searches revealed hundreds of call girl searches. He also used his cellphone Internet to arrange services.
Asst. U.S. Marla Ryan said, "No one is anonymous on the Internet. The university reported it to police and then us and we found he had been arranging dates in nearly 30 cities. Just because he used Yahoo and Gmail doesn't mean he couldn't get caught nor could anyone else."
Bryan Wisher faces 22 counts of solicitation which carries up to 22 years in prison. Calls were not returned from the university or the coach's lawyer. Boosters and players all said he was a nice guy and they never expected he was Eliot Spitzer. -AP Wire Reports |
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Onion, NJ | said by cameronsfx:AP Basketball Coach Nailed in Sex Scandal by Internet September 12, 2010 -- Bryan Wisher, head basketball coach at Eastern University, was fired yesterday after a FBI sting found he was a client of a call girl service. His Google searches revealed hundreds of call girl searches. He also used his cellphone Internet to arrange services. Asst. U.S. Marla Ryan said, "No one is anonymous on the Internet. The university reported it to police and then us and we found he had been arranging dates in nearly 30 cities. Just because he used Yahoo and Gmail doesn't mean he couldn't get caught nor could anyone else." Bryan Wisher faces 22 counts of solicitation which carries up to 22 years in prison. Calls were not returned from the university or the coach's lawyer. Boosters and players all said he was a nice guy and they never expected he was Eliot Spitzer. -AP Wire Reports Can you get me some stock prices on that day too?
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the only thing he missed was "think of the children"!
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said by Karl Bode: and we have effective regulatory protections in place for abuse. I hope this was sarcasm at its finest, otherwise I'd have to take issue with this statement!
The time to unplug is is exponentially coming closer
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i agree.what does israel have to do with this post anyways
1984 is coming on fast. |
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