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Re: IPv6 enabled, when? It is a shame. However, in the eyes of Mele20 and Dude111, older is generally better.
@Mele20: How can it not be on its last legs only in the US? You do realize the internet is a global network and current IP allocation schemes are global, do you not? XP is IPv6 aware. You just have to activate the IPv6 stack already included by MS by going to the network connection and clicking properties. On the list of protocols, choose install. IPv6 should be on the list, choose it, then reboot when the machine says. You are now IPv6 enabled  In fact, you get to use MS's teredo tunnel if you left IPv4 enabled and have an IPv4 connection. It's nothing too noteworthy as it doesn't seem to have connectivity to many IPv6 sites(ipv6.google.com will work). My custom teredo install on Linux can connect to any IPv6 site I want it to. Of course XP does easily support 6-to-4 as well, if you're interested.
@Dude111: You don't have much confidence in DSLR staff, do you? Setting up an additional interface on IPv6 under Linux(what most servers run, though it's easy under almost any modern OS) is nothing on an IPv6 capable host. All of my servers run it just for the hell of it, since they are on capable hosts anyways. If DSLR has Apache(or whatever server suite they use now) bound to the interface, they will then just have to list both listen addresses or simply have the httpd listen on 0.0.0.0(all interfaces). Not much more to it than that.
@DSLR staff: I would like to see more feedback on this subject as I have asked, as well. If you guys don't know, that's ok. Given all the subjects about IPv6 lately, we'd just like to hear something official from you guys.
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kudos:4 | said by Selenia:@Mele20: How can it not be on its last legs only in the US? You do realize the internet is a global network and current IP allocation schemes are global, do you not? XP is IPv6 aware. There are plenty of IPv4 addresses left. They are just being hogged that's all. At least that is the case in the USA.
Yes, I know XP is IPv6 aware. That is not the problem. The problem is that my router is NOT IPv6 aware. The vast majority of routers out there are NOT IPv6 aware. I'm not buying a new router until forced to do so by my ISP (or until this one dies). Actually, when my ISP does implement IPv6, IPv4 will still be used also. That's partly so everyone does not have to run out and buy a new router.
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3 edits | There are plenty of IPv4 addresses left.
Please state your source.
They are just being hogged that's all.
Please state your source.
At least that is the case in the USA.
Please state your source.
The vast majority of routers out there are NOT IPv6 aware.
Please state your source.
The problem is that my router is NOT IPv6 aware.
What is the brand, model, are hard version of your router?
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kudos:4 | I researched this subject last year when Avira jumped the gun and screwed up everyone who had the free version with their IPv6 experiment on us. The users of Avira paid versions were not experimented on so they continued to get updates with no problems but us free users had a nightmare for about 4-5 months with Avira lying about it at first, then admitting when they got cornered with clear evidence, and then finally they removed the experiment. Anyhow, I installed IPv6 on one of my XP Pro virtual machines and I tried tunneling to get the Avira updates (I was desperate like we all were here in the USA...Europe users were mostly ok because that is where IPv4 is running out of addresses and IPv6 has been more likely to be implemented by ISPs there than in the USA where the attitude is quite different).
I don't see any bookmarks about IPv6 on this Opera I am using but I may have them on a virtual machine or even another browser. I don't have time to go looking now. You can do the research yourself. My ISP has stated that there will be no move to IPv6 for residential RR users until 2011 at the earliest and most likely not until 2012 or 2013 and IPv4 will be retained for many years alongside IPv6 when the move is finally made.
I have a Cisco/Linksy BEFSR41 version 3 router. I don't want a wireless router and the last version of the BEFSR41 is version 4. It is still being sold. I use the last beta (European not USA) firmware issued by Linksy in 2005.
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| said by Mele20:My ISP has stated that there will be no move to IPv6 for residential RR users until 2011 at the earliest and most likely not until 2012 or 2013 and IPv4 will be retained for many years alongside IPv6 when the move is finally made. Well, they better get moving real soon..
From Security Now! with Steve Gibson, Episode 259, recorded July 28, 2010: Q&A #97.]
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The IANA made some news this week by reminding us again that the Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses.
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The general consensus is, sort of like the average consensus, is around this time next year, around July of 2011, we're out.
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said by Mele20:I have a Cisco/Linksy s BEFSR41 version 3 router. I don't want a wireless router and the last version of the BEFSR41 is version 4. It is still being sold. I use the last beta (European not USA) firmware issued by Linksy s in 2005. Fixed.
Also: *object*
Far more pressing matters to attend to.
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kudos:4 | "Fixed" and "object"? What is fixed and to what do you object? |
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I agree!!!!
This change to v6 will cut alot of us off!! (Unless the hardware converts it which will most likely cause SLOWDOWNS) |
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| Please research the topic, including enabling IPv6 in your OS, before spreading FUD like that. I mean, exactly what needs converting? We are talking about enabling an extra real or virtual network interface with another IP address, which happens to be an IPv6 address. How do you propose that will affect the interface that's on IPv4? Also, if a site is IPv6 only(which nobody here is proposing) and your connection is IPv4-only, it's at the software level(your OS) that tunneling gets enabled. That can cause a little bit of slowdown if the particular tunnel is overloaded, but it should be able to output as much bandwidth as any other server on the internet. Do a little research Dude111  and you'll find your fears are unfounded and BBR will work fine for you still.
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said by drew:Far more pressing matters to attend to. Can you elaborate?
I am genuinely interested to know what is far more important to the Internet right now than what protocol we are going to use to access it into the future. |
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