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Ga Dawg

join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA

reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Mayor not too bright

said by fAcEtIOUs:

The Mayor, by "calling out" Charter just made an enemy. An enemy who, whether he likes it or not, still provides most of the cable service to his town. I hope he can build out his fiber network very quickly. Because Charter can make life miserable for the town in the meantime.
Charter doesn't operate in a bubble. They still have a public service commission to deal with.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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They can drop rates like you wouldn't believe and run the Muni so far in debt that they can't sink or swim.

Triple play bundle $56 including taxes for a lifetime.

--digital tv with 2 boxes (1DVR), Plus Internet, Digital Phone unlimited local and long distance.

Id like to see the city compete with that.



Steve B
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA

said by hottboiinnc:

They can drop rates like you wouldn't believe and run the Muni so far in debt that they can't sink or swim.

Triple play bundle $56 including taxes for a lifetime.

--digital tv with 2 boxes (1DVR), Plus Internet, Digital Phone unlimited local and long distance.

Id like to see the city compete with that.
Got a point, however, that is what us consumers want. We desperately want viable competition....especially of the pricing variety.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to hottboiinnc
"Id like to see the city compete with that."

You can when you don't have to answer to anyone and can just go back and get more money from the tax payers as needed.



BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to hottboiinnc

said by hottboiinnc:

They can drop rates like you wouldn't believe and run the Muni so far in debt that they can't sink or swim.

Triple play bundle $56 including taxes for a lifetime.

--digital tv with 2 boxes (1DVR), Plus Internet, Digital Phone unlimited local and long distance.
Then why haven't they done that BEFORE?


Tel

join:2001-10-12
Mauldin, SC
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reply to hottboiinnc

said by hottboiinnc:

They can drop rates like you wouldn't believe and run the Muni so far in debt that they can't sink or swim.

Triple play bundle $56 including taxes for a lifetime.

--digital tv with 2 boxes (1DVR), Plus Internet, Digital Phone unlimited local and long distance.

Id like to see the city compete with that.
No they can't and anyone with a lick of business sense could see that. Just as they can't raise their rates on a whim, they also can't just lower them whenever they want.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to BF69
why do they?

Ask your self that same question on Why sprint needs to service your area and you'll get the same reponse.


hottboiinnc
ME

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Cleveland, OH
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reply to Tel
I don't know where you get your information from but YES they can lower their rates to anything they wish when ever they want. They don't have to ask the PSC or the PUC to raise rates like the telcos do. Cable may have to pay the state $$$ to operate in areas but they don't answer regarding pricing. Never have never will.

And yes a company of Charter's size or bigger could lower their rates that low and run ANY Muni into the ground faster than they can build.
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GLIMMER

join:2004-01-17
Fisher, IL

Yes they do. Most towns require aproval. A rate in
crease


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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that is a rate INCREASE! not DE-CREASE. And most towns? LOL. Not many towns have a say so on what goes on as far as cable providers anymore.

And the towns can require what they want. It doesn't mean they have to give the towns what they want. That's the whole thing behind the State Franchise laws.
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marigolds
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
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reply to Ga Dawg

said by Ga Dawg:

said by fAcEtIOUs:

The Mayor, by "calling out" Charter just made an enemy. An enemy who, whether he likes it or not, still provides most of the cable service to his town. I hope he can build out his fiber network very quickly. Because Charter can make life miserable for the town in the meantime.
Charter doesn't operate in a bubble. They still have a public service commission to deal with.
Cable companies are PSC exempt in Alabama:
»www.psc.state.al.us/News/1999%20···Info.htm
"However, the PSC does not regulate electric coops, most water companies, municipal utilities, cable television systems, cellular phones or the Tennessee Valley Authority."
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marigolds
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Saint Louis, MO
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reply to hottboiinnc

said by hottboiinnc:

That's the whole thing behind the State Franchise laws.
Alabama doesn't have a statewide franchise law last I knew.
Anyway, you are ignoring that Charter is in serious financial trouble and not in particularly good position to engage in a protracted 30,000+ RGU pricing war. At $56, that would be a potential $6M loss per quarter, when they are already losing $81M per quarter.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to hottboiinnc
You're thinking of Shaw, not Charter. I have never heard of Charter engaging in a price war. Too expensive. DSL companies, sure. Charter, no.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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reply to marigolds
and that is why they're trimming their debt by the courts.

And they only have to offer that plan to the masses until the muni goes under and stops. then for everyone that didn't sign up price is regular rate. everyone who signed up- price stays the same.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to iansltx
just because its not heard of doesn't mean that it is not possible for a MSO to do it regardless of who they are.



marigolds
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
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reply to hottboiinnc
There is a secondary risk here though. Remember how these bonds work. The infrastructure backs the bonds too. That means that if the utility goes under, the built infrastructure will be sold off. And that means Charter will still have another company (likely Knology) to compete with; a company with a dirt cheap ftth network.
Charter will try to fight until at least that point, but they might give up the market in the long run.


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