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3 edits | almost nobody hitting a 250gb cap is doing ONLY legal activity Split from this topic --> »I got call today .. 400 gb last month
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said by Chillin:said by JohnInSJ:said by MSauk:So I get a copy of a movie I own, and do none of the work (or my computer for that matter). Sadly, if you are using bittorrent you also share that move back out as you download it, to people who may or may not own it, thus opening yourself up to getting targeted for legal action. So, yeah, I'd just rip it myself. I agree. To add to that, almost nobody hitting a 250gb cap a month is doing ONLY legal activities. Not saying it doesn't exsist, there are always exceptions, but those are few and far between. This has been covered to death and proven wrong. Read the thread. It's more than "a few".
Mod Note: See also ---> »if you are using that much data, its USUALLY piracy
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| Re: I got call today .. 400 gb last month No, it's a few.
Given the huge number of CHSI subscribers, and the dozen (maybe?) examples given here, that is an extremely small ratio. This forum is about the worst place to talk about average internet usage. That's not the people that visit and post here.
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said by Alcohol:This has been covered to death and proven wrong. Read the thread. It's more than "a few". In context of total users, its few. Does Comcast not maintain its 1% of users that are the problem?
99% vs 1%, makes the 1%.....FEW.
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| said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:This has been covered to death and proven wrong. Read the thread. It's more than "a few". In context of total users, its few. Does Comcast not maintain its 1% of users that are the problem? 99% vs 1%, makes the 1%.....FEW. Wrong. I'm not saying it's not 1% total. You were implying only a small % of that 1% total reach the cap legally. That is false.
Read my post again.
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ChillinNo i7, no care.Premium
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Johnson City, TN | said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:This has been covered to death and proven wrong. Read the thread. It's more than "a few". In context of total users, its few. Does Comcast not maintain its 1% of users that are the problem? 99% vs 1%, makes the 1%.....FEW. Wrong. I'm not saying it's not 1% total. You were implying only a small % of that 1% total reach the cap legally. That is false. Read my post again. You have proof of this? You dont. You dont have any data at all to support this. Other than you claim you dont do anything illegal with it. I doubt that seriously as well. Show us some data that you have to back this up? A "few" people you talk to online im sure is all the data you got.
Everyone I know that has got the "call" from comcast is doing at least partly something illegal. Even the guy in this thread is copying movies he claims to already own, I doubt thats legal considering he is sharing the movie while downloading it.
To be more clear, I dont know a single person that is just watching netflix and browsing the web normally that has got the call.
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| said by Chillin:You have proof of this? You dont. You dont have any data at all to support this. Other than you claim you dont do anything illegal with it. I doubt that seriously as well. Show us some data that you have to back this up? A "few" people you talk to online im sure is all the data you got. Everyone I know that has got the "call" from comcast is doing at least partly something illegal. Even the guy in this thread is copying movies he claims to already own, I doubt thats legal considering he is sharing the movie while downloading it. To be more clear, I dont know a single person that is just watching netflix and browsing the web normally that has got the call. And where is your proof that it's only a few?
Everyone you know? 
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Johnson City, TN | said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:You have proof of this? You dont. You dont have any data at all to support this. Other than you claim you dont do anything illegal with it. I doubt that seriously as well. Show us some data that you have to back this up? A "few" people you talk to online im sure is all the data you got. Everyone I know that has got the "call" from comcast is doing at least partly something illegal. Even the guy in this thread is copying movies he claims to already own, I doubt thats legal considering he is sharing the movie while downloading it. To be more clear, I dont know a single person that is just watching netflix and browsing the web normally that has got the call. And where is your proof that it's only a few? Everyone you know? You are not really suggesting that most people hitting the cap are doing it legally are you? I mean really.
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| said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:You have proof of this? You dont. You dont have any data at all to support this. Other than you claim you dont do anything illegal with it. I doubt that seriously as well. Show us some data that you have to back this up? A "few" people you talk to online im sure is all the data you got. Everyone I know that has got the "call" from comcast is doing at least partly something illegal. Even the guy in this thread is copying movies he claims to already own, I doubt thats legal considering he is sharing the movie while downloading it. To be more clear, I dont know a single person that is just watching netflix and browsing the web normally that has got the call. And where is your proof that it's only a few? Everyone you know? You are not really suggesting that most people hitting the cap are doing it legally are you? I mean really. No, you suggested there are only a few, i said you're wrong.
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Johnson City, TN | said by Alcohol:No, you suggested there are only a few, i said you're wrong. Few in context, so I am right.
So we agree, most people are hitting this cap doing illegal things. My statement earlier was clear, im sure there are people that are hitting it doing nothing illegal, those are few and far between in CONTEXT with the people that are hitting it doing illegal things, like downloading music/movies/software/etc.
Its not like for a second any of us here believe you dont do something illegal with your connection here and there.
Lets not forget, you pay for and subcribe to a service you know is capped. Go business class or keep crying about it, those are your choices.
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| said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:No, you suggested there are only a few, i said you're wrong. Few in context, so I am right. Citation needed.
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1 edit | said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:No, you suggested there are only a few, i said you're wrong. Few in context, so I am right. Citation needed. Are you still ignoring the fact you are paying for capped internet, and upset that they are capping you.
Makes sense.
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| said by Chillin:Are you still ignoring the fact you are paying for capped internet, and upset that they are capping you. Makes sense. huh?
No?
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Johnson City, TN | said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:Are you still ignoring the fact you are paying for capped internet, and upset that they are capping you. Makes sense. huh? No? Why are you bitching about capping then?
Just to bitch?
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1 edit | said by Chillin:said by Alcohol:said by Chillin:Are you still ignoring the fact you are paying for capped internet, and upset that they are capping you. Makes sense. huh? No? Why are you bitching about capping then? Just to bitch? Is this a serious question?
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Re: almost nobody hitting a 250gb cap is doing ONLY legal activi I'm not sure why we're on this tangent, but if I can summarize, the positions
Chillin's position is that most|nearly all folks using more than 250GB/mo are involved in illegal activities.
My position (odd, given that I am on business class, and even without cap I generally don't go over 250GB) is that it's not at all difficult to do so legally.
So, yeah, while its easy to imagine how you can blow hundreds of gigs doing illegal things, its equally easy to imagine someone enthusiastically using free and/or paid services that consume massive amounts of bandwidth.
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AlcoholPremium
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kudos:3 | Exactly. And without any proof, it's a pointless argument.
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2 edits | Not looking to stir the pot, but as a fairly new CHSI user with two newly-minted Roku's, I can easily see how legal usage can burn thru the 250GB cap.
With both Roku's going w/Netflix (moderate usage of both for any given day), my daily usage is north of 10GB. The 250GB cap provides for a little over 8GB of daily usage. Granted, the 10GB+ use is not a long-term daily average, but as consumers' needs/usage evolves (and it will), I can foresee that many people with their *legal* activities are going to start feeling cramped with these limits... |
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Johnson City, TN | reply to JohnInSJ
said by JohnInSJ:I'm not sure why we're on this tangent, but if I can summarize, the positions Chillin's position is that most|nearly all folks using more than 250GB/mo are involved in illegal activities. My position (odd, given that I am on business class, and even without cap I generally don't go over 250GB) is that it's not at all difficult to do so legally. So, yeah, while its easy to imagine how you can blow hundreds of gigs doing illegal things, its equally easy to imagine someone enthusiastically using free and/or paid services that consume massive amounts of bandwidth. Normal use for most people, even a family of 4+ would be hard to hit 250gb.
Someone with no life watching 10hrs a day of netflix may be able to do it I am sure. Either way I never said it wasn't possible, clearly is. I said most people hitting that cap are doing it illegally, you know it and I know it. He is trying to debate as if that isn't the truth. Im sure there are a percent of those doing it leggally and thats great, however there is a cap. They will need to learn to live with it or upgrade like you did.
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Johnson City, TN | reply to CSD8086
said by CSD8086:Not looking to stir the pot, but as a fairly new CHSI user with two newly-minted Roku's, I can easily see how legal usage can burn thru the 250GB cap. With both Roku's going w/Netflix (moderate usage of both for any given day), my daily usage is north of 10GB. The 250GB cap provides for a little over 8GB of daily usage. Granted, the 10GB+ use is not a long-term daily average, but as consumers' needs/usage evolves (and it will), I can foresee that many people with their *legal* activities are going to start feeling cramped with these limits... I am sure as what you are doing becomes more the "norm" the caps will go up.
Unfortunately there will still be those complaining that the new cap is to low. Its not likely to ever end, rather just move up in cap and up in usage.
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said by Chillin:said by JohnInSJ:I'm not sure why we're on this tangent, but if I can summarize, the positions Chillin's position is that most|nearly all folks using more than 250GB/mo are involved in illegal activities. My position (odd, given that I am on business class, and even without cap I generally don't go over 250GB) is that it's not at all difficult to do so legally. So, yeah, while its easy to imagine how you can blow hundreds of gigs doing illegal things, its equally easy to imagine someone enthusiastically using free and/or paid services that consume massive amounts of bandwidth. Normal use for most people, even a family of 4+ would be hard to hit 250gb. Again, citation needed.
Counter evidence has been provided in this thread.
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