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El Quintron
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Teksavvy Peeps chime in on my (possibly) new router

Hey guys I think I'm going to take the plunge and get a

WNR3500L

»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···WNR3500L

and

»www.onhop.ca/catalog/product/10746131

It also has the ability to install alternative firmware:
»www.myopenrouter.com/

That last link is operated by Netgear so excuse the fluff but they do go into great detail on how to install the big alternate firmwares so I'll deal for now.

My questions: Do you guys like the router? Is it a good deal for a hackable N router?

If not what other choices would you suggest.

One Caveat:

I am looking for a router with customizable firware so if it don't do that then I'm not interested.

Thanks again!
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derekm

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Don't know if they've resolved these issues yet.



El Quintron
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Said by Guspaz on the slashdot site:

said by Guspaz :
As the developer of a popular fork of Tomato, I'd like to address a few points:

Not all features supported

Specific to their Tomato port:

1 > WPA is not working.
2 > There is no support of SAMBA server .
3 > NAS is accessible only through command line using ftp. No GUI support to
access NAS is available till now.

1: Presumably, WPA2 is, which means that this isn't a showtopper, just a big annoyance. There's actually only one missing feature here, WPA support. The rest would not be expected.

2/3: Mainline Tomato doesn't support any of this on USB-supporting routers anyhow.

Binary kernel modules

This is no different than mainline Tomato, which also relies on binary kernel modules. In fact, most opensource firmwares DO.

Looking at this from the perspective of one of the authors of Tomato/MLPPP (bonding multiple DSL lines using a fork of Tomato), only WPA is really of any concern, and even then, you can work around it by using WPA2. This router adds support for 802.11N, more (MUCH FASTER) RAM, and a far faster CPU (200 -> 480MHz, plus other architectural improvements). Considering that memory throughput/latency and CPU power are our main bottlenecks when bonding multiple DSL lines, this router remains quite interesting despite the lack of WPA.

Good to know there are some issues I've overlooked though I'll be scanning the site more and looking for fixes to those issues...

I find older laptops running linux don't do well with WPA2 which is not cool so thanks for the heads up.
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reply to El Quintron

said by El Quintron:

Hey guys I think I'm going to take the plunge and get a

WNR3500L

»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···WNR3500L

and

»www.onhop.ca/catalog/product/10746131

It also has the ability to install alternative firmware:
»www.myopenrouter.com/

That last link is operated by Netgear so excuse the fluff but they do go into great detail on how to install the big alternate firmwares so I'll deal for now.

My questions: Do you guys like the router? Is it a good deal for a hackable N router?

If not what other choices would you suggest.

One Caveat:

I am looking for a router with customizable firware so if it don't do that then I'm not interested.

Thanks again!
if true wireless N isnt a issue go with the ASUS RT-16N

xdrag

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North York, ON

reply to El Quintron
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_RT-N16

RT-N16 is a beast....

If you don't need 5ghz, it's should be great.



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said by xdrag:

»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_RT-N16

RT-N16 is a beast....

If you don't need 5ghz, it's should be great.
I was going to suggest the same unit, but these you gents beat me to it.

RT-N16, it runs dd-wrt with native MLPPP support.

HKPolice

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reply to El Quintron
DD-WRT is crap compared to Tomato. Tomato USB works with the Asus RT-N16 but no MLPPP support.

If all you need is a router for routing a 5-6mbit DSL connection then a regular WRT54GL + tomato will do.



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said by HKPolice:

DD-WRT is crap compared to Tomato. Tomato USB works with the Asus RT-N16 but no MLPPP support.

If all you need is a router for routing a 5-6mbit DSL connection then a regular WRT54GL + tomato will do.
My WRT54GL is a solid router but it's beginning to show its age... I have a 10/1 cable connection I have approximately 8 Wired devices and two wireless laptops that are connected through a series of switches across the house.

I don't need MLPPP or USB support but I'm going to need something with a bit more guts than the WRT54GL.

So Tomato does with on the RT-N16 without MLPPP support?
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reply to HKPolice

said by HKPolice:

DD-WRT is crap compared to Tomato. Tomato USB works with the Asus RT-N16 but no MLPPP support.

If all you need is a router for routing a 5-6mbit DSL connection then a regular WRT54GL + tomato will do.
How exactly is DD-WRT crap compared to Tomato?
It's a very robust solution, and for a consumer router that you're not trying to bond 8 lines with, works pretty darn well.


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reply to El Quintron
OK I'm being more and more sold on the RT-N16...

It says on the Tiger Direct site that it has 1 Gbps ports, can anyone confirm?

»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···y=RT-N16

said by Tiger Direct :
WAN Port(s): 1
10/100/1000 Mbps Ports: 4
Dimensions: 216 x 161.9 x 40.5 mm

This router seems to be a close to perfect as it can get, plus it runs tomato... sounds awesome to me
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said by El Quintron:

OK I'm being more and more sold on the RT-N16...

It says on the Tiger Direct site that it has 1 Gbps ports, can anyone confirm?

»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···y=RT-N16

said by Tiger Direct :
WAN Port(s): 1
10/100/1000 Mbps Ports: 4
Dimensions: 216 x 161.9 x 40.5 mm

This router seems to be a close to perfect as it can get, plus it runs tomato... sounds awesome to me
Yes they are Gigabit ports


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said by AOD:

Yes they are Gigabit ports
Even better! Looks like I'm going for my mandatory trip to Tiger Direct today.
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said by El Quintron:

said by AOD:

Yes they are Gigabit ports
Even better! Looks like I'm going for my mandatory trip to Tiger Direct today.
»aod999.ca/tomato.jpg


Jayar

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reply to El Quintron
might wanna look here first!

»www.swiftgamers.com/ProductDetai···e=RT-N16



El Quintron
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said by Jayar:

might wanna look here first!

»www.swiftgamers.com/ProductDetai···e=RT-N16
Markham is far away from my home and I'm one of those "I want it now!" people. (when it comes to some stuff)

I did notice a lot of good stuff on their website though so I bookmarked the link. Do you buy most of your gear online?
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most of the time. I actually used shopbot.ca to fetch the lowest prices, you should bookmark that as well. Just enter the model number and a list should pop up. I usually use this list to pricematch with NCIX, even more so now that they have a warehouse in Markham which is very close to me.

and lol, I'm the same way.


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reply to El Quintron
Tiger Direct seems to be about the most expensive place to get it.

»www1.canadacomputers.com/product···d=027834

And assuming none of their many locations are close to you...

»www.shopbot.ca/pp-asus-rt-n16-as···879.html



Angelo
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ncix 29.99 this week



Jayar

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... the Asus RT-N16?



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reply to El Quintron

said by El Quintron:

My WRT54GL is a solid router but it's beginning to show its age... I have a 10/1 cable connection I have approximately 8 Wired devices and two wireless laptops that are connected through a series of switches across the house.
How is it showing its age? I friend of mine started an ISP and was up to 50 customers before his Linksys router started to flinch, and that wan't the venerable GL, nor was it running proper firmware.

Neither should a 10/1 connection tax its CPU even beyond half, unless you're running vpns or something extra.

Still, there are scenarios where the Linksys woudn't be appropriate. I'm just curious what makes you think yours has expired.
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