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amigo_boy

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reply to iansltx

Re: MagicTalk isn't "this week"

said by iansltx:

So...wait...a CLEC is required by law to give you long distance?

News to me, and to the telephone cooperative turned CLEC nearby. You either pay for long distance and get it or...well...you don't pay for it and you don't get it.
You're going to have to start quoting what you're replying to.

Where did I say anyone is required by law to give anyone long distance?

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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LECs aren't required to complete calls that are long distance because they cost more than local calls.

MagicJack shouldn't be required to complete all calls for a similar reason. Sure, the Internet has made local calling areas a bit of a moot point, but high-cost areas on the other hand still exist.

Flat-rate and unlimited long distance plans from landline and cell carriers tend to hide this issue because they've run the numbers and decided that the percentage of their subscriber base that calls high cost areas is minimal. Those call carriers and landline companies also charge more for service than MagicJack...way more.

MagicJack on the other hand has realized that some of their users will tend to exclusively call high cost areas (rural, conference calling) and as a result has made the business decision to disallow service to those regions. They don't offer recourse for this...maybe they should for a price per minute...but it isn't something that hasn't been done before. It just so happens that MJ's "local" area covers a lot more ground than any landline company's.

How much more, do you ask? Well, Verizon in my area covers Fredericksburg, TX, Willow City, TX, Doss, TX and Stonewall, TX. The combined populations of everything outside Fredericksburg is a couple thousand at most. Fredericksburg itself is on the order of 12,000 subscribers. I can call every single one of those subscribers with MagicJack, plus millions more. For a lower price than Verizon is charging for their landline service...even the basic unlimited-local landline service. I think that's a good thing.


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
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said by iansltx:

LECs aren't required to complete calls that are long distance because they cost more than local calls.
I never said LECs are required to complete long distance calls. Which is apparently why you don't want to quote what you're replying to. It makes it easier to create strawman arguments?

said by iansltx:

MagicJack shouldn't be required to complete all calls for a similar reason.
The problem is, MagicJack is serving the role of both a LEC and long-distance carrier, which is required by law to complete calls to rural LECs.

said by iansltx:

Flat-rate and unlimited long distance plans from landline and cell carriers tend to hide this issue because they've run the numbers and decided that the percentage of their subscriber base that calls high cost areas is minimal.
MagicJack "ran the numbers" too. They were making a terrific profit until blocking rural numbers 2-3 weeks ago.

They let higher-population areas subsidize the lower. In the same way lighter (1 call per 48 hours) users subsidize the heavier users (10 calls per 12 hours).

said by iansltx:

Those call carriers and landline companies also charge more for service than MagicJack...way more.
Reducing costs isn't an excuse to evade the law.

That's like saying "I don't pay income tax because I want to be 'competitive.' If you made me pay income tax, I'd have to charge as much as the people who do pay income tax. That would make me 'uncompetitive.'"

That's sophomoric.

said by iansltx:

I think that's a good thing.
See my immediately previous post about the selective nature of enjoying government subsidy.

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