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 jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Small ISPS said by hottboiinnc:and like my post below says. The majority will decide what you want. and you'll pay for it. if not you can change ISPs. Thats the way businesses work. There really aren't too many choices available for most people. This particular business model takes all of the consumer influence out of the basic supply-demand chain. The only real option is to go without service, which isn't much of a choice from a practical standpoint.
Where can a consumer find an ISP that allows them to pay for TV programming, but not Disney channels? This is exactly where this ESPN360 model is taking us. It's a similar reason why HBO refuses to make their content available to Netflix. They don't want to deal with consumers choosing to pay $10 a month for content, they would rather have the ISP oligarchy fork over millions for their content and take the individual consumer completely out of the picture, except where used as a statistic to determine how much each ISP should pay in "extortion" fees.
I don't like it. The consumers can't make this die. All the power is in the hands of the ISPs, and the powerful conglomerates will simply use this to increase rates so that they make a bit of a profit, too, while calling it a value add. A smaller ISP, where the operating cost per customer is typically much higher, cannot afford to pay up to 5 times more per subscriber, and they are basically being priced out or missing out on features that will ultimately drive some of their business away, making an already tenuous endeavor even more so.
I do see where you are coming from, but I just don't think that there is enough consumer control to allow for this type of business model to take root without an investigation into some kind of regulation and oversight. | |
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| Yes there are options. NetZero DSL/Dial up, Earthlink, there are 2 major providers there. The list can go on and on. Oh! did we forget DSLX? They're a nationwide provider but people choose NOT to go with them due to they actually add un"fees" to their bottom line to make more $$$ and then blame ATT for that charge. But that is something else to talk about.
And yes you can get away without having Disney. Again remember C-Band? It's still around and in business. People again, forgot about they have another option.
you are confusing ISP and TV providers as well. Which seems to be done on here when discussing this topic.
Customers can make this die! Ever hear about becoming your own ISP? There are several DSL resellers that will let you open up shop over night and offer services nationwide. people just don't feel like doing it; again- instead they'd rather bitch about not having an "option".
And here we go again with regulation. You add regulation and you'll get a higher bill. What's going to happen? Your ISP will go into court; they'll sue the FCC, and you'll end up with a bigger bill. We already seen what happened when everyone on here wanted a hard cap from Comcast. You got one. with that "regulation. but people asked for it, and got it, and still bitch.
Regulation does NOTHING but provent a company from doing what they want. If you don't like it, change companies and shut up about it. That's what customers should do. If you have a problem, vote with your $$$ and change ISPs someone will accept you until their tired of dealing with the bitching and just shut you off.
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | said by hottboiinnc:Yes there are options. NetZero DSL/Dial up, Earthlink, there are 2 major providers there. The list can go on and on. Oh! did we forget DSLX? They're a nationwide provider but people choose NOT to go with them due to they actually add un"fees" to their bottom line to make more $$$ and then blame ATT for that charge. But that is something else to talk about. And yes you can get away without having Disney. Again remember C-Band? It's still around and in business. People again, forgot about they have another option. you are confusing ISP and TV providers as well. Which seems to be done on here when discussing this topic. Customers can make this die! Ever hear about becoming your own ISP? There are several DSL resellers that will let you open up shop over night and offer services nationwide. people just don't feel like doing it; again- instead they'd rather bitch about not having an "option". And here we go again with regulation. You add regulation and you'll get a higher bill. What's going to happen? Your ISP will go into court; they'll sue the FCC, and you'll end up with a bigger bill. We already seen what happened when everyone on here wanted a hard cap from Comcast. You got one. with that "regulation. but people asked for it, and got it, and still bitch. Regulation does NOTHING but provent a company from doing what they want. If you don't like it, change companies and shut up about it. That's what customers should do. If you have a problem, vote with your $$$ and change ISPs someone will accept you until their tired of dealing with the bitching and just shut you off. None of the solutions offered in your rant are very practical. You know this, and the conglomerates running our government know this as well. Very few people are going to give up HSI for dial-up or switch to satellite (if possible) because of a $4 annual price hike. It sucks, but there really isn't any other choice.
If ESPN360 were available for a subscription fee to everyone that had internet access, it would hardly make the same amount of money that they are making by having it bundled into our ISPs' services. Why is that? Because this business model makes a profit for both parties, and takes the consumer choice out of the picture. Also, by allowing everyone to sign up individually, the prices could be controlled by consumer demand, which would directly influence the quality of the product. No forward-thinking business wants to give that kind of power to the people.
It is the same problem we now see wth our TV content, which is why I lump this in with TV service. Disney wants the same business model for their internet content that they currently enjoy with their TV products. | |
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