Topic 'A pipe dream' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/A-pipe-dream-24730450 en Sat, 18 May 2013 19:39:45 EDT Sat, 18 May 2013 19:39:45 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24751947 said by gettagrip :

Man, I am so lucky that I hate sports.
+1

My only vice is WRC, and as far as I know, it's not aired in the states.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24751947 Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:54:43 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24748016 --
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I'd be willing to bet the numbers would greatly change if you narrowed the age range to 24-34.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24736264 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:36:00 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24736310 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24736310 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:12:43 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24734858 said by FBGuy:

said by Linklist:

said by FBGuy:

i'm probably an expection, but of all the people I know only those over the age of 30 have cable/satellite.
That is because they are the ones with jobs; houses; and HDTV's. Those under 30 are living in their parent's basements jobless or underemployed and using a PC screen to watch things.
hdtv's are not a status symbol.
concur. you can't even buy a new tv that isn't hd these days.
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BS... ever heard of the credit crunch? People in this country don't own anything but debt. Personal debt in this country has skyrocketed over the past 3 decades and is part of the reason why the current recession is so painful.
I think you missed the humor...

$12 property taxes....
less than 1% income taxes...

I own lots of things, and they are all debt-free. Personal responsibility and smart money management can be a wonderful thing. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24734607 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 00:33:18 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24734200 --
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24734200 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:25:54 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733916 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733916 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:29:00 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733513 said by tjb122982:

That's only the NFL. MLB's policy is based on protecting local broadcasters.
Somewhat the same for the NHL, except they also use it to protect a team's territory. Without Center Ice, you can't watch most games that aren't national broadcasts (exempt from regional blackouts) or involve the team who's broadcast region you're in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733513 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:29:45 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733401 said by BF69:

No my standards are not low. If paying $1000 a year or more in cable bills is worth getting hockey in the "HD" that is acceptable to you then more power to you.On a 60" display the NueLion feeds are flat out painful to watch.

Between DirecTV and Shaw Direct (Canadian satellite) my bills are a bit north of $1k/year, but considering the cost of my Wild season tickets, even paying for Center Ice and basic service for both providers is the best value in the world.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733401 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:05:49 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733358 said by nsayer:

said by tjb122982:

Blackouts is the biggest reason why I am not going to cut the cord. When the sports leagues decide to drop their stupid blackout rules and put more of the games online. I'll cut it.
You'll wait forever.

The purpose of the blackout rules is to insure that they have fans in the stadium to watch the game live.
That's only the NFL. MLB's policy is based on protecting local broadcasters.

I can't watch the Cubs on either Extra Innings or MLB.tv because MLB wants to protect CSN Chicago but the thing is that Time Warner in Terre Haute doesn't carry CSN Chicago; and all my attempts to get my parents to switch to satellite have failed.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Leag···t_policy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733358 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:55:48 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733171 said by tjb122982:

Blackouts is the biggest reason why I am not going to cut the cord. When the sports leagues decide to drop their stupid blackout rules and put more of the games online. I'll cut it.
You'll wait forever.

The purpose of the blackout rules is to insure that they have fans in the stadium to watch the game live.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733171 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:10:24 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733088 said by espaeth:

said by BF69:

Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
It's still no comparison to broadcast HD game coverage. It's great in a pinch, but it is only an acceptable alternative to broadcast HD if your standards are very low.
No my standards are not low. If paying $1000 a year or more in cable bills is worth getting hockey in the "HD" that is acceptable to you then more power to you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733088 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:00 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733076 said by Nightfall:

said by espaeth:

said by BF69:

Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
It's still no comparison to broadcast HD game coverage. It's great in a pinch, but it is only an acceptable alternative to broadcast HD if your standards are very low.
This is the same for every stream I have found. Yes, I can watch Lost in HD right on ABC's website. No, I can't put it on my HDTV without getting some kind of TV out card or cable from my PC.
So what if you have to spend less than $100 on a card and HDMI cord? People pay that for just ONE month of cable. Also last time I checked ABC is a BROADCAST network surely you have a ABC station near you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733076 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:52:11 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733067 said by Nightfall:

For $160 for the seasonThe expectation of getting everything for FREE is the biggest hinderance to getting more content online.

AND blackout rules apply.
I live out of market. So for me $2 a game does not seem that outrageous.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24733067 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:49:44 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24732440 said by espaeth:

said by BF69:

Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
It's still no comparison to broadcast HD game coverage. It's great in a pinch, but it is only an acceptable alternative to broadcast HD if your standards are very low.
This is the same for every stream I have found. Yes, I can watch Lost in HD right on ABC's website. No, I can't put it on my HDTV without getting some kind of TV out card or cable from my PC. As you said, its great in a pinch, but not where it needs to be.

The real cord cutting will happen eventually, but it will probably take 10-20 years.
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said by BF69:

The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
For out-of-market games only.
Blackouts is the biggest reason why I am not going to cut the cord. When the sports leagues decide to drop their stupid blackout rules and put more of the games online. I'll cut it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24732372 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:59:21 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24732122 said by BF69:

Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.It's still no comparison to broadcast HD game coverage. It's great in a pinch, but it is only an acceptable alternative to broadcast HD if your standards are very low.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24732122 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:12:28 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731833 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731833 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:27:18 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731408
I think of mom's and dad's that pay for every last thing for their kids. For christs sakes people teach your children some damn independence. sink or swim. whats it gunna be?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731408 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:26:26 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731344 said by FBGuy:

I know many under 30's that live on their own (condos, apartments, etc) that have hdtv's too.
And I know many that are not living on their own.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang_Generation
He cites Canadian census statistics showing that, in 1981, 27.5% of Canadians aged 20–29 lived with their parents; in 2001, the figure had grown to 41%. In United States the proportion of adults ages 20 to 34 living with their parents has increased from 9% in 1960 to almost 17% in 2000.
The Japanese have an interesting name for it: Parasite Single:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_single
According to a 1998 survey by the Ministry of Health and Welfare, about 60% of single men and 80% of single women between the ages of 20 and 34 live with their parents.[citation needed] These numbers have been steadily increasing since 1976.
It appears to be a world wide situation in industrialized countries.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731344 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:12:56 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731269 said by DavePR:

Local TV comes in mighty handy when the mountains are on fire and you want to know where it's going next. I'm terrain sheilded and must use cable TV to watch my local channels.
can you get AM radio? i would imagine that there are plenty of emergency am stations that can announce that stuff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731269 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:59:34 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731261 said by Linklist:

said by FBGuy:

i'm probably an expection, but of all the people I know only those over the age of 30 have cable/satellite.
That is because they are the ones with jobs; houses; and HDTV's. Those under 30 are living in their parent's basements jobless or underemployed and using a PC screen to watch things.
are you being serious? or are you just trolling? I was being serious. I own my home. I choose to save over $1200/year not owning a tv and subscribing to cable. I do have an 1080p capable monitor that plays blu ray just fine. I know many under 30's that live on their own (condos, apartments, etc) that have hdtv's too. they just choose to watch ota.

hdtv's are not a status symbol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731261 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:58:32 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731229
There's a trend not mentioned of people in their late teens finding the internet quaint. Stuff goes in cycles. Plug and play rules.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731229 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:52:42 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731199 said by FBGuy:

i'm probably an expection, but of all the people I know only those over the age of 30 have cable/satellite.
That is because they are the ones with jobs; houses; and HDTV's. Those under 30 are living in their parent's basements jobless or underemployed and using a PC screen to watch things.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24731199 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:47:13 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730997 said by BF69:

The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
For out-of-market games only.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730997 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:01:12 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730969 said by BF69:

said by Nightfall:

Until....

1. Content you want to watch can be easily found.
2. The technology exists where you can watch it anytime you want.
3. The technology is easy to plug in and go.
4. The content is 720p, 1080i, or 1080p
5. All streams are 100% legal
6. The output to the TV is easy.

You won't see the cord cutting happening widespread. Case in point, I love live sports. What I don't love is trying to find these live sports streamed over the internet. The Versus debacle on Directv is a good case in point. If I wanted to watch hockey on Versus, I had to find a stream for it. Browsing all over the place for the streams and then finding something that would lose its picture was just not acceptable.
Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.
For $160 for the season AND blackout rules apply.

Remember, the whole idea behind cord cutting is to be able to view the same content on the TV like we do with DVRs today at the same quality level for free or at least a very limited cost. I don't know many people who would drop that kind of money to watch in a crappy format over the internet. Not only to the content providers need to get their crap together, but the internet speeds as a whole need to go up and the caps need to disappear.
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I would have no problem cutting the cord (I can wait for shows to come out on DVD before I watch them), but compared to my other bills, my satellite TV is relatively cheap and convenient. It's a luxury I don't need to give up.
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Until....

1. Content you want to watch can be easily found.
2. The technology exists where you can watch it anytime you want.
3. The technology is easy to plug in and go.
4. The content is 720p, 1080i, or 1080p
5. All streams are 100% legal
6. The output to the TV is easy.

You won't see the cord cutting happening widespread. Case in point, I love live sports. What I don't love is trying to find these live sports streamed over the internet. The Versus debacle on Directv is a good case in point. If I wanted to watch hockey on Versus, I had to find a stream for it. Browsing all over the place for the streams and then finding something that would lose its picture was just not acceptable.
Yeah the streams you found sucked because they were illegal. The NHL offers legal broadband streaming.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730723 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:08:12 EDT Re: A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730626
i'm probably an expection, but of all the people I know only those over the age of 30 have cable/satellite. everyone else does netflix, hulu, filesharing, usenet, or goes outside.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-A-pipe-dream-24730626 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:45:48 EDT A pipe dream http://www.dslreports.com/forum/A-pipe-dream-24730450
1. Content you want to watch can be easily found.
2. The technology exists where you can watch it anytime you want.
3. The technology is easy to plug in and go.
4. The content is 720p, 1080i, or 1080p
5. All streams are 100% legal
6. The output to the TV is easy.

You won't see the cord cutting happening widespread. Case in point, I love live sports. What I don't love is trying to find these live sports streamed over the internet. The Versus debacle on Directv is a good case in point. If I wanted to watch hockey on Versus, I had to find a stream for it. Browsing all over the place for the streams and then finding something that would lose its picture was just not acceptable.

So now, here I am hearing about all the cord cutting going on. The fact of the matter is that its all economy driven right now. Until all of the above things happen, you won't see any widespread cord cutting.
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