 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | One problem In my area it would show basically all the Tv spectrum as unused. That's not true, but that's what it will show because we are in a fringe area. Morons wanting to use white spaces are to stupid to actually look stuff up to make sure. This will cause problems for sure. |
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 | said by BF69:In my area it would show basically all the Tv spectrum as unused. That's not true, but that's what it will show because we are in a fringe area. Morons wanting to use white spaces are to stupid to actually look stuff up to make sure. This will cause problems for sure. Of course it will. King Julius wants to kill off OTA. |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 1 edit | said by fifty nine:said by BF69:In my area it would show basically all the Tv spectrum as unused. That's not true, but that's what it will show because we are in a fringe area. Morons wanting to use white spaces are to stupid to actually look stuff up to make sure. This will cause problems for sure. Of course it will. King Julius wants to kill off OTA. They spent all that time & MONEY converting all the OTA stations to DTV and now they are doing their best to kill off OTA completely. Opening up whitespaces won't do that by itself, but it is just one more step on the path to try and drive OTA in to oblivion. |
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| reply to BF69 Before a TV Band Device (formerly known as White Space Device) can transmit it needs to know where it is and needs to check an on-line database for incumbent users. TV stations and other licensed users are in the database and therefore the device will not turn on if there's a chance of causing interference.
There are no suitable channels for these things in New York, L. A., Chicago, etc. I doubt they will ever see any kind of mass appeal. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | ..maybe not there.. But the rural areas would welcome it. |
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 DavePR join:2008-06-04 Canyon Country, CA | Except for Billings, MT., apparently. |
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 | reply to Romney2012 Many have been and are dropping cable to go to OTA to reduce costs and partly because of the freely available HD programing.
I do not know the numbers, but *killing the institution* of 'Over The Air' television, now of course with 'High Definition' broadcasts,' *will* be an uphill battle. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT 2 edits | reply to DavePR said by DavePR:Except for Billings, MT., apparently. We would. Heck, we have 3 WISPs here and plenty of open channels.
I think the mostly rural states would benefit from White Space Broadband. |
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 | reply to OTAman said by OTAman :
Many have been and are dropping cable to go to OTA to reduce costs and partly because of the freely available HD programing.
I do not know the numbers, but *killing the institution* of 'Over The Air' television, now of course with 'High Definition' broadcasts,' *will* be an uphill battle. This administration is ALL about uphill battles. The healthcare bill, cap 'n' trade, etc... all uphill battles, yet they keep on truckin' |
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 | reply to DavePR said by DavePR:Before a TV Band Device (formerly known as White Space Device) can transmit it needs to know where it is and needs to check an on-line database for incumbent users. TV stations and other licensed users are in the database and therefore the device will not turn on if there's a chance of causing interference. There are no suitable channels for these things in New York, L. A., Chicago, etc. I doubt they will ever see any kind of mass appeal. The problem is that some areas won't be accurately mapped, and these devices will spew interference all over the TV band. Fringe areas like mine are especially susceptible.
And they absolutely REFUSE to enable signal detection in these devices. One has to wonder why? |
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 DavePR join:2008-06-04 Canyon Country, CA | "Sensing" was dropped because they couldn't get it to work right. Do whatever you can to get "standing" with the FCC vis a vis input to the database. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | reply to BF69 Why not just dedicate a channel? Problem solved. |
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 | reply to DavePR said by DavePR:"Sensing" was dropped because they couldn't get it to work right. Do whatever you can to get "standing" with the FCC vis a vis input to the database. Maybe the reason they couldn't get it to work right is because there were actual signals in the area?
Geolocation isn't going to work unless the database is VERY conservative. If it's anything like antennaweb, it's going to be a mess for rural OTA viewers. |
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 | reply to Simba7 said by Simba7:Why not just dedicate a channel? Problem solved. Find a channel that is free in every market.
I'm sure you'll find out that the answer is that there isn't one, unless you're counting channel 37. |
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