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 ·magicjack.com
| Realize you're getting FedEx's hyperbole, the way they want you to.
UPS is profitable. So, it's definitely hyperbole to say USP is being "bailed out."
I've read a little about this dispute. If what I've read is true, FedEx looks like they're the ones with an image problem. Their drivers are independent contractors who FedEx doesn't have to pay Social Security or benefits.
This all seems to originate from FedEx's original corporate structure as an airline, not a ground-delivery service. (And, exacerbated by UPS getting into express delivery using its own air fleet.).
A good overview here.
I'm not a big fan of labor unions. Nor any type of fan of UPS. But, there's more to it than FedEx's depiction. The two companies are governed by different laws due to their origins, which neither company resembles today. One could say FedEx is the unjustified beneficiary of this imbalance, and UPS has a legitimate interest in leveling the playing field. |
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kudos:4 | reply to rawgerz
In case anyone doesn't understand the issue between FedEx & UPS, here it is:
UPS is trying to slip a chg into a new FAA reauthorization bill that would chg FedEx's relations with their unions out of the "Railway Labor Act"(where all airline unions are regulated now) in to the "National Labor Relations Act".
So, who cares? Well the Railway Act makes it darn near impossible to strike. The gov't can impose very long cool off periods and virtually stop a strike in its tracks. It can take up to 18 months before a strike can actually happen.
The National Labor Relations Act makes it much easier to strike and gives unions more leverage in contract negotiations. UPS operates under these rules.
Obviously FedEx(which is more airline than trucking company) wants to stay under airline rules. UPS wants FedEx to get stuck with the higher costs that stronger unions can force.
Do you care? Well if UPS wins, then FedEx prices will rise and so will UPSs as well. I'm rooting for FedEx. |
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| said by Romney2012:Do you care? Well if UPS wins, then FedEx prices will rise and so will UPSs as well. I'm rooting for FedEx. I think they should both be governed by the same labor laws. There was a significant difference between them 20 years ago, before FedEx got into "ground" shipping (and before UPS bought its own air fleet and got into "express" shipping).
Aside from that, I don't care which way it goes. But, FedEx is being disingenuous to claim they're an airline and shouldn't be subject to the same labor laws UPS is.
Perhaps UPS should be subject to the same law as FedEx. (But, that would be a difficult Pandora's box to un-open.).
I don't care. But, UPS has a legitimate point. Nobody would get that from FedEx's self-serving web site and videos about "bailouts." |
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Chicago, IL | reply to rawgerz
I've worked for both UPS and FedEx and both companies have their share of problems.
FedEx takes the "threat" of unionization very seriously. I was on the leadership fast track when I happened to suggest that employees whose work day is strictly scheduled, like call center and ground ops workers, and therefore unable to attend company meetings and other events, should be allowed to delegate a co-worker who can speak up for them at such events.....this, somehow, was mistaken for "union activity" and the company found a way to show me to the door shortly thereafter.
Having said that, I should add that FedEx employees, at least the Express ones, are treated very well. The company has an unofficial policy to never lay off workers so that workers feel secure in their jobs, therefore are more loyal. Wages are competitive (although generally lower than UPS), benefits are very generous and policies are very fair and favor the employees...even if short sighted managers occasionally find a way to subvert the intention of such policies.
If you're willing to drink the kool-aid, FedEx is easily one of the best places to work.
FedEx Ground is a slightly different story because most of its couriers are classified as contractors - illegally in my opinion....and the company is in trouble because of this.
UPS, well, represents what you'd expect a stereotypical unionized company to be. Wages and work conditions are excellent thanks to collective bargaining. However, one must pay his dues before being let into "the club" and afforded the rights and privileges enjoyed by the tenured workers. There is always just-below-the-surface animosity between labor and management. But generally, the company finds a way to make it work. Also, it's a geek heaven....UPS is leaps and bounds ahead of FedEx when it comes to technology.
If you're nostalgic for the old-timey employer-employee relationship where you work at the same place your whole life and can retire with a gold watch and a pension, UPS is the place for you. And I mean that as a compliment. If, on the other hand, you like to shake things up and think outside the box, best not end up working at UPS.
As for this little shell game of claiming bailouts and unfair advantages...both companies are guilty. FedEx doesn't want to give up its airline status due to labor advantages and UPS calls its delivery trucks "package cars" to circumvent paying higher insurance premiums on its fleet. It's typical corporate bullshit.
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