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Re: sooner or later

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Video Streaming. DTV on Demand with multiple receivers. Online gaming (which is mainstream even if you don't think so)
Potential WebTV that is currently being developed and could be right around the corner. Google's starting theirs up now.

Real time backup. Video Conferencing. Video calling.

The number of uses for greater than 7mb BBD are many and increasing. More importantly the use is trickling down to the average household, and the rate of uptake is increasing. Just like 10-15 years ago cel phones weren't used by the average person and now kids even have cel phones and a great deal of people have cel phones instead of actual phones.

High speed is the future and the future is now. /cheesy catch phrase

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What in the world would the average home user need more than 64k of ram?

Hardware always restricts the developers. Once DOCSIS 3 rolls more main stream I can easily see applications popping up that will use it... legally.

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Late 90s:

SO let me ask you - what is the average home user going to need 33 Kbps upload for?

Just a straight up honest question.

And remember this is the AVERAGE home user, for legal uses only.
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"What in the world would the average home user need more than 64k of ram?"

Oh man... That's the most original post ever!

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you can't say WebTV that's a trademark of MSFT's WebTV product. It's basically Internet TV.

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any type of online gaming is going to require 128Kbps upload at a minimum. hell, majority of all voip providers recommend at least 128kbps upload unless you want your call to sound like a cell phone. I'd say 1Mb is pretty fine for upload for the average home user. parents like to use the vonage and upload lots of pics, while their kids want to play xbox live.

i have 50/20 fios and setup a site-to-site VPN with all 3 of our main offices and transfer crap back and forth all day. i also access my NAS so i can stream some TV or music so i don't get bored

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I will agree with that - especially once you add overhead + any encryption.
On the upside - once you upload - backups typically become a 'delta'.
Personally - if it came down to a $5/month service, paying $$$ for higher upstream, or a $70 1TB backup device - I'd hit the 1TB device.
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and your wife is the 'average' user ?

I consider myself a high end user - but don't upload nearly anything in comparison.
I do suspect that online backups will be a more common item, requiring bandwidth chewing upload (actually more than download in some cases).

I think what needs to be defined is 'AVERAGE'.
What percent upload that kind of data vs. spend hours on YouTube (yeah - some will be uploading lots of video!) and Facebook.

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you know for those people that have servers, local backups at 100mbps or even 1Gbps is much easier than relying on an "online backup service"

For about 6 machines in my house, the "backups" are done in just a couple of hours for all 6 machines for the night. If I really wanted a off site backup storage facility I guess I could run an ethernet cable to the garage and put a box out there, or a fireproof safe wouldn't be a bad investment either. I would have saved the cost over time that way.

Right now with the machines in the house I "backup" about 1.1Gb of data, across a redundant drive array.
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