| Quebec: Vidéotron's cellular network goes live Thursday »www.montrealgazette.com/technolo···ory.html
Vidéotron's cellular network goes live Thursday
On Thursday, Quebecor will launch a new wireless network which will cover 90 per cent of the province of Quebec.
The announcement is expected to spark a price war between Quebecor, and the established wireless companies: Rogers, Telus, and Bell. [...]
However, Quebecor stated they would not engage in a "price war".
Does anyone use public mobile? I know of no one on it. |
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| Re: Quebec: Vidéotron's cellular network goes live Thursd Our family is looking forward to signing up for it as is our neighbours. |
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 FarchordLost somewhere.
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I... hope it's fair and cheap if so, I'm breaking my contract with telus and going Videoétron  |
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Their prices are going to suck, that's almost guaranteed.
it's videotron. They were never competitive on price for any of their services.
The only reason to care about them at all is that they are going to support AWS/t-mobile3G phones, which opens up the possibility of using different phones, like t-mobile G2 or nokia n900 |
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However, Quebecor stated they would not engage in a "price war".
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jfmezeiPremium
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| At launch, they will probably have very interesting pricing. Buit within a year or two, you'll find they will have aligned themselves with the big guys because THEY ARE AN INCUMBENT.
However, Videotron is likely to offer very good pricing when included in a bundle. And in Québec, bundles are ony available to Bell and Videotron. Rogers and Telus can't offer bundles here. |
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| said by jfmezei:However, Videotron is likely to offer very good pricing when included in a bundle. And in Québec, bundles are ony available to Bell and Videotron. Rogers and Telus can't offer bundles here. Which may, surprisingly, make Rogers and Telus suck just a little bit less.
Good luck QC-ers!
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| said by El Quintron:said by jfmezei:However, Videotron is likely to offer very good pricing when included in a bundle. And in Québec, bundles are ony available to Bell and Videotron. Rogers and Telus can't offer bundles here. Which may, surprisingly, make Rogers and Telus suck just a little bit less. Good luck QC-ers! Actually they will have to offer something better since the majority are Rogers/Fido or Bell/Bell-Virgin users. Telus is basically the same as bell.
If videotron wants a piece of the pie they will have to underscore the Bell & Rogers discount brand. As for public mobile, they are a non-issue.
But yeah, since they stated they would not engage in any price-war, I just see them settling in to the colluded price-scheme. |
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But yeah, since they stated they would not engage in any price-war, I just see them settling in to the colluded price-scheme.
I don't expect there to be an agressive price war, but there might be a soft price war (a la WIND mobile) where Videotron would offer more for the same price the incumbents are currently offering.
So assuming the average monthly bill is $60... then Videotron could always offer more minutes/data than the competition for that same $60 and not technically get into a price war.
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said by jfmezei:At launch, they will probably have very interesting pricing. Buit within a year or two, you'll find they will have aligned themselves with the big guys because THEY ARE AN INCUMBENT. However, Videotron is likely to offer very good pricing when included in a bundle. And in Québec, bundles are ony available to Bell and Videotron. Rogers and Telus can't offer bundles here. That's what I read this morning, if you bundle, the prices will be dirt cheap. Cheaper then the other new players.
That said, I wouldn't trust VTL as far as I can throw them.
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Anjou, QC | You know, I don't have an issue with them having mobile service, and that it's not competitive standalone, and is only a great deal when bundled up. Ultimately, it's their choice to get business any way they wish.
What I do have a problem with, is that the bandwidth auctions allowed them to buy a portion of bandwidth in one area only, and not across canada, meaning that they took up this chunk that essentially is preventing Wind from being a viable alternative in Quebec.
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kudos:1 | That's the same problem I have with them. I would've been much happier to see Wind than that useless Videotron wireless that (from the sounds of it) will only be appealing to people who want a quad package with Videotron only. |
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said by jfmezei:However, Videotron is likely to offer very good pricing when included in a bundle. And in Québec, bundles are ony available to Bell and Videotron. Rogers and Telus can't offer bundles here. Rogers advertises/offers bundles in Quebec; they offer wireless, long distance, and internet. They advertise these as bundles in the metro.
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said by LiQuiD:You know, I don't have an issue with them having mobile service, and that it's not competitive standalone, and is only a great deal when bundled up. Ultimately, it's their choice to get business any way they wish. What I do have a problem with, is that the bandwidth auctions allowed them to buy a portion of bandwidth in one area only, and not across canada, meaning that they took up this chunk that essentially is preventing Wind from being a viable alternative in Quebec. No they chose to only purchase spectrum in Quebec.
I fail to understand why PKP is doing putting all his eggs in the Quebec basket. Outside Osprey papers (did the fold that into Sun Media?) Sun Media and SunTv they have no other presence, n the multimedia world, outside of Quebec.
Just like when he bought Toronto1 some years ago, it's no better when it was he bought it and there still is NO PLAN to do anything about.
They missed out on Chum, they missed out on getting the CitytV's, the missed out the E! sales(if you call it a sale),and now they missed out on purchasing Canwest broadcasting assets.
Frankly if I was shareholder I'd be fuming on the fact that he's done very little to make the business bigger, or more nationwide.
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said by LiQuiD:What I do have a problem with, is that the bandwidth auctions allowed them to buy a portion of bandwidth in one area only, and not across canada, meaning that they took up this chunk that essentially is preventing Wind from being a viable alternative in Quebec. I wouldn't want wind, nor should they even have been allowed to set-up shop in Canada seeing that they are foreign and not even Canadian. I would chose videotron over them anytime just based on that alone.
Wind shouldn't have even been able to buy spectrum to begin with.
said by elwoodblues:No they chose to only purchase spectrum in Quebec. I fail to understand why PKP is doing putting all his eggs in the Quebec basket. Outside Osprey papers (did the fold that into Sun Media?) Sun Media and SunTv they have no other presence, n the multimedia world, outside of Quebec. I think you both fail to realize that videotron has had wireless in Toronto for a few years and also bought spectrum in toronto during the action. In addition to supplying cable internet and TV in cerain area's in Ottawa for a while now.
At least they are Canadian and not some foreign company. |
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| Now c'mon... While I would rather buy local (I especially love supporting local farmers and artisans), when you have companies like Bell or Videotron... to go to them because they're 'Canadian' is plain silly IMO since all they're doing is ripping you off while making billions. If they even slightly tried giving us services at fair market value, sure. But with their ever increasing fees and ever decreasing services and products, that 'they're not foreign' thing will not work on me or the majority of the population. |
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| Videotron's success isn't due so much to Videotron, it is due to Bell. Everytime Bell pisses off a customer, they lose them to Videotron for internet and phone. And now, Bell also loses the opportunity for TV in montreal and toronto.
There are areas where Bell just can't compete with its old DSL while Videotron has DOCSIS3 rolled out. Remember that not all of Bell's territory has upgraded remopte dslams near all homes.
Bell's inability to provide mdoern service in Québec city is why Bell was bleeding customers to Videotron left and right and why deploying FTTH there would help stop the loss of customers. This is the shape of things to come.
With bundles and number portability, you'll find that mobile phone will just follow internet service as will the phone and TV. The internet service is where there is a huge difference, so this may in fact be the main driver in customer defections. |
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said by LiQuiD:What I do have a problem with, is that the bandwidth auctions allowed them to buy a portion of bandwidth in one area only, and not across canada, meaning that they took up this chunk that essentially is preventing Wind from being a viable alternative in Quebec. I agree with you wholeheartedly... all arguments about WIND not being Canadian are complete trash anyways because all our patriotic nitwits have managed to do is milk a broken system anyways but I digress.
Ideally the auction would have been set up so that no company could own the entire spectrum in a given area so that competition could come in eventually and buy unused spectrum if necessary.
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said by jfmezei:And now, Bell also loses the opportunity for TV in montreal and toronto. Why only 'now'? You make it sound like FibeTV is the only TV service Bell has ever sold anyone even though ExpressVu has been around for over a decade and has millions of subscribers from coast to coast. It will take years for FibeTV to catch up with it since Bell has no reason to force existing EV subs to switch to FibeTV where available. |
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