 SkellBasherYes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac
join:2000-10-22
Niagara Falls, NY | Android's openness both a blessing and curse The fact that Android is open is a great benefit that helped it's development and adoption early on. Now, the big boys are realizing that because it's open, they can go under the hood and lock it down just like they've always done.
The OHA is pretty much useless now. Vendors are no longer contributing code back to the Android codebase. They're simply taking the current release and modifying it to fit what the carrier wants. Their major benefit is that they don't have to have a team of programmers to build their own OS from scratch; they just have to have a few Android devs to tweak what's already there. |
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| but if you feel like killing your warrenty, which most ppl that I know could care less about(cause you can reflash it to the stock android) you can break the OS locks, and get rid of this crap that companies release, and make it your own. its very easy. |
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SkellBasherYes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac
join:2000-10-22
Niagara Falls, NY | said by Chubbysumo:but if you feel like killing your warrenty, which most ppl that I know could care less about(cause you can reflash it to the stock android) you can break the OS locks, and get rid of this crap that companies release, and make it your own. its very easy. Except that certain phones will brick if you attempt to root or load a modified OS. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Which ones? |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to SkellBasher
If Google really cared about contributing code back to the source, then it should've licensed Android differently IMO. Deep down I doubt that Google really cares. It accomplished its goal; brand recognition and hooks into a widely distributed OS. |
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 FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | reply to SkellBasher
only if you don't follow the instructions that are put out.. |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | reply to openbox9
said by openbox9: Deep down I doubt that Google really cares. It will quickly start caring if Verizon & AT&T start selling smartphones that make it hard to use the Google search & other apps. That cuts down on what Goggle really cares about - ad revenue. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | I understand that, but my point is that if Google really cared, it wouldn't have left the license open to allow for these types of actions to occur. Google preaches open, so they get the bad medicine with that as well as the good. |
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 AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
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said by SkellBasher:said by Chubbysumo:but if you feel like killing your warrenty, which most ppl that I know could care less about(cause you can reflash it to the stock android) you can break the OS locks, and get rid of this crap that companies release, and make it your own. its very easy. Except that certain phones will brick if you attempt to root or load a modified OS. This is false. The efuse has been cracked.
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true! and the best part, its the OS is opensource they don't really "license" it. its free to the public to use. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to Alcohol
More refuted than cracked I believe. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to hottboiinnc
Android is licensed both under the GPL as well as the Apache Software License. So it's free, as in beer, and free, as in speech, in accordance with these licenses. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to openbox9
Google isn't narcissistic in behavior. It isn't all about recognition. It's about ad revenue. They really do care about what's happening to their software as removal of google absolutely kills their ad revenue.
It's really hard to say exactly what google is caring about because I don't think everyone knows the most important thing.. the over all numbers.
The amount of mobile search may be small compared to other revenue google is getting. The other thing is that down the road, google may be playing a game just like anyone else. It's possible that THIS release of android is free and open, and while it is, everyone is getting hooked on, and addicted on, "android"... its possible that future releases may most likely have a price attached to it, OR that they may have a not-so-free and unrestricted license with it. At that point, what are the carriers going to do? Dump the android? ... for what?
Maybe this is a little playing the carriers at their own games they play with the consumers... hook your customer in on something way too good, and when they "need" it, then the game changes.. Google also loves to try to play games to point out the hypocrisy of the major carriers and other corporations. (Still waiting on this fiber pipe project they're supposed to be getting into, which as we know, is designed to point out what ISPs are holding us back from, right?)
hard to say... but, the fact is, yes, google cares. They're not just out there doing something for the good of man-kind. |
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demirPremium
join:2010-07-15
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2 edits | reply to openbox9
How exactly should have google licensed Android differently?
They used the Apache license which is as open as it gets in the software world :
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License
Free to use; for commercial or otherwise.
That means carriers can *freely* modify it however they see fit, then go and redistribute it for a profit. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy:hard to say... but, the fact is, yes, google cares. They're not just out there doing something for the good of man-kind. I've never stated as such. In fact, I'm one of the rare folks who calls Google out for being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Google is a for-profit corporation after all. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to demir
My comment was in response to developers contributed software back to the source. If Google want code contribution, then the ASL isn't the way to get it. I understand the reason for choosing the ASL. Without it, uptake of Android would most likely have been quite a bit less. |
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 gballMaster YodaPremium
join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN | reply to Alcohol
efuse has not been cracked..custom userland is not custom ROM land. They are no further along then they are with the Milestone. |
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AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
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| said by gball:efuse has not been cracked..custom userland is not custom ROM land. They are no further along then they are with the Milestone. huh?
Droid X has already been rooted and there is a custom rom available for froyo update.
»forum.xda-developers.com/forumdi···hp?f=691
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to openbox9
They are.. I agree with that.
I still believe that google is very good at what they are doing... they're doing what every other corporation is doing as has done.. they're just doing it in a whole new way that most people haven't really figured out yet.
The norm has always been "business as usual"... the google way is to constantly change, keep people guessing and deny everything along the way. Once they've gotten what they wanted, they've long moved into a new direction and google's methods are only discovered long after they've not only done it, but moved on to other things. (Hope that made sense. lol)
They're just non-conventional.. they operate under the radar making moves that people aren't looking for because the majority of people that are watching are looking for predictable patterns based on current corporation america 101. |
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Yes there are custom roms but no custom kernels
»www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/dro···ery.html |
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