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Romney2012
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reply to openbox9

Re: Android's openness both a blessing and curse

said by openbox9:

Deep down I doubt that Google really cares.
It will quickly start caring if Verizon & AT&T start selling smartphones that make it hard to use the Google search & other apps. That cuts down on what Goggle really cares about - ad revenue.

openbox9

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I understand that, but my point is that if Google really cared, it wouldn't have left the license open to allow for these types of actions to occur. Google preaches open, so they get the bad medicine with that as well as the good.


hottboiinnc
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true! and the best part, its the OS is opensource they don't really "license" it. its free to the public to use.


openbox9

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Android is licensed both under the GPL as well as the Apache Software License. So it's free, as in beer, and free, as in speech, in accordance with these licenses.


fiberguy
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reply to openbox9
Google isn't narcissistic in behavior. It isn't all about recognition. It's about ad revenue. They really do care about what's happening to their software as removal of google absolutely kills their ad revenue.

It's really hard to say exactly what google is caring about because I don't think everyone knows the most important thing.. the over all numbers.

The amount of mobile search may be small compared to other revenue google is getting. The other thing is that down the road, google may be playing a game just like anyone else. It's possible that THIS release of android is free and open, and while it is, everyone is getting hooked on, and addicted on, "android"... its possible that future releases may most likely have a price attached to it, OR that they may have a not-so-free and unrestricted license with it. At that point, what are the carriers going to do? Dump the android? ... for what?

Maybe this is a little playing the carriers at their own games they play with the consumers... hook your customer in on something way too good, and when they "need" it, then the game changes.. Google also loves to try to play games to point out the hypocrisy of the major carriers and other corporations. (Still waiting on this fiber pipe project they're supposed to be getting into, which as we know, is designed to point out what ISPs are holding us back from, right?)

hard to say... but, the fact is, yes, google cares. They're not just out there doing something for the good of man-kind.


openbox9

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said by fiberguy:

hard to say... but, the fact is, yes, google cares. They're not just out there doing something for the good of man-kind.
I've never stated as such. In fact, I'm one of the rare folks who calls Google out for being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Google is a for-profit corporation after all.

fiberguy
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They are.. I agree with that.

I still believe that google is very good at what they are doing... they're doing what every other corporation is doing as has done.. they're just doing it in a whole new way that most people haven't really figured out yet.

The norm has always been "business as usual"... the google way is to constantly change, keep people guessing and deny everything along the way. Once they've gotten what they wanted, they've long moved into a new direction and google's methods are only discovered long after they've not only done it, but moved on to other things. (Hope that made sense. lol)

They're just non-conventional.. they operate under the radar making moves that people aren't looking for because the majority of people that are watching are looking for predictable patterns based on current corporation america 101.


hottboiinnc
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reply to openbox9
which makes it free and the licenses is pretty much useless as far as enforcing anything on VZ.


openbox9

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What exactly would you like to use the GPL and ASL for with VZ?



AVD
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reply to hottboiinnc
Its free open for the vendor, not the end user.
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openbox9

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Knock yourself out.

»source.android.com/source/download.html


demir
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reply to AVD
It is open to the end user. Anyone can take android code, develop against it, slap it on a cell phone all at no cost to them.

They also could sell their repackaged code to a carrier and make tons of money without having to pay google a cent.



AVD
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problem is getting the open cellphone in the first place.
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