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wmcbrine
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You're misreading this

Let me re-punctuate it for clarity:

"We do offer Fiber-to-the-Home -- or [fiber-to-the-]premise, in cases of businesses -- in a number of our communities."

Frontier is not saying that it's only offered to businesses, nor is that the case. (Well, I don't know what they're offering in terms of new installations, if anything, but I do know that they inherited plenty of residential Fios customers.) The "in cases of businesses" is purely referring to the slight difference in terminology when there isn't a "home" involved.
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hga

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You are absolutely correct in your parsing of the statement: they deliver FTTH, as in residences, not just businesses, in a number of areas. In the area I'm familiar with they are using Calix (»www.calix.com) GPON.

Frontier is hardly perfect, but all would be better off if the staff of DSL Reports was willing to give the subjects of its reporting the slightest benefit of doubt.



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You're misreading this
I Am? Here's the interview snippet, again. "For clarity":
Oregonian: Frontier wasn't heavily in this kind of cable TV, super-fast Internet business before the transaction. Why did you want these markets?

Wilderotter:Oh, nonsense. We deploy fiber to the home all across the country. We don't call it FiOS. We call it high-speed Internet. For our customers, the technology doesn't matter. What matters is access, speed and capacity.
Do they deploy fiber to the home "all across the country?" No. Does the technology matter? Yes.
I don't know what they're offering in terms of new installations, if anything..
The answer to that would be none, or virtually none.
I do know that they inherited plenty of residential Fios customers.
That was always acknowledged and never disputed. Though "plenty" is only about 100-125k, with no plans for new builds.

What's being disputed is the CEO saying they offer FTTH "all across the country" when that's not the case. They offer it in a select number of greenfield locations. She's intentionally conflating copper/fiber, downplaying Frontier's slow speeds (not the first time in recent months), and insisting "technology doesn't matter." It does. It certainly will when competing in DOCSIS 3.0 cable markets.

hga

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said by Karl Bode:

You're misreading this
I Am? Here's the interview snippet, again. "For clarity":
Oregonian: Frontier wasn't heavily in this kind of cable TV, super-fast Internet business before the transaction. Why did you want these markets?

Wilderotter:Oh, nonsense. We deploy fiber to the home...
No, you're misreading this quote:
We do offer Fiber-to-the-Home or premise in cases of businesses in a number of our communities.
As both I and the original poster of the thread noted you are misparsing it. They are delivering both FTTH (as in residences) and FTT premise for businesses.
said by Karl Bode:

What's being disputed is the CEO saying they offer FTTH "all across the country" when that's not the case. They offer it in a select number of greenfield locations.
Maybe yes, maybe no. I submit to you that you don't have any idea of how many greenfield locations in which they have been doing this for some time. Or where they are.


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As both I and the original poster of the thread noted you are misparsing it. They are delivering both FTTH (as in residences) and FTT premise for businesses.
Find me a residential Frontier fiber to the home customer. I'd love to talk to them. Perhaps they do exist. Perhaps you might even be able to count them on one hand.
I submit to you that you don't have any idea of how many greenfield locations in which they have been doing this for some time. Or where they are.
There's scattered and small installed greenfield deployments in Elk Grove and Williams, California, Mohave County and White Mountains, Arizona and Myrtle Creek and Cave Junction, in Oregon. In total they don't exceed 10,000 installs, and the vast majority of them are small businesses, with maybe a few housing developments mixed in, where users are capped at DSL-esque speeds. There's also 100-125 acquired FiOS customers from the Reverse Morris Trust Verizon deal.

The vast majority (millions) of Frontier customers can't get speeds faster than 3 Mbps, and Frontier is not "deploying fiber to the home all across the country." They have absolutely no plan to install "fiber to the home all across the country." They've deployed a limited number of greenfield locations (usually developments) in the past. There's a difference.

I submit to you that they're falsely inflating their network potential in order to ease investor concerns that they'll struggle to compete with upgraded cable networks.

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