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Re: Get with the times... said by Network Guy:said by d1gw33d:People will continue to download your content at an alarming rate because you offer no viable alternative. Yep. Bittorrent for the win. Of course execs refuse to accept this reality. It doesn't bode well for shareholder value. What reality? That people want to access content without paying? |
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| said by fifty nine:What reality? That people want to access content without paying? That Netflix and many other cheaper alternatives exist. Their crap isn't all that great or exclusive to begin with. |
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1 edit | said by Network Guy:said by fifty nine:What reality? That people want to access content without paying? That Netflix and many other cheaper alternatives exist. Their crap isn't all that great or exclusive to begin with. Netflix is $9- $10, HBO is $12 - $15 from most cable providers and you get the TV channels in addition to the streaming. OK so it's 5 bucks a month less, but the way I see it, HBO isn't really interested in streaming but is providing it as a convenience to people who want it. They are probably also feeling the market.
I want to see how long the unlimited $10 streaming from netflix will last when they have to cater to more demand and movie licensing fees go up. The cost to produce the average feature film isn't cheap. |
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| said by fifty nine:I want to see how long the unlimited $10 streaming from netflix will last when they have to cater to more demand and movie licensing fees go up. The cost to produce the average feature film isn't cheap. Netflix offers a lot more content for less, even if it's not content that HBO fans are interested in.
I'm sure if Netflix has to cross the price hike bridge, many may consider other alternatives as well. Their pricing can be conceived as both disruptive and unsustainable, depends on which way the industry starts to go.
Unless you can't live without HBO, it's pretty stupid to pay extra for the convenience given the alternatives.
One can argue that $11 to catch a flick at the movie theater is ridiculous. While the lines at the local movie theater are getting shorter these days, some people still pay it. |
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What is your thought process here? You come in and defend this route HBO is taking while back handing Netflix? To what purpose?
Netflix offers a decent selection on a variety of devices for a flat rate while giving you access to a huge physical media library. Rates will probably go up. As you mentioned it has nothing to do with Netflix and everything to do with Hollywood / Studios. Which quite frankly seems to have the same mind set as HBO.
Control the content as much as possible, hold on to old business models and refuse to innovate distribution models.
You seem to also want to sniff out any possibility of piracy from users posting here and assume anyone that downloads content just wants it for free. Come back to Earth.
If you think it's that black and white you're out of touch or a corporate whore. |
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I would gladly pay $0.99 per episode to rent season 3 of True Blood in HD quality over the Internet right now. I'm sure as shit not going to pay $12/mo+ for HBO since they have nothing else I'm interested in.
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said by d1gw33d:What is your thought process here? You come in and defend this route HBO is taking while back handing Netflix? To what purpose? Because they do apparently have different goals, but people seem to think they have the same goal.
In other words, I don't get the impression that HBO wants to be another netflix.
You seem to also want to sniff out any possibility of piracy from users posting here and assume anyone that downloads content just wants it for free. Come back to Earth. When people place Bittorrent as a viable alternative, my conclusion that people "just want content for free (or close to it)" is absolutely correct. |
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| I was discussing 2 different things. People do and will continue to pirate HBO's content due to lack of availability in what would seem is a viable process.
Obviously there are plenty of people just saving a buck and stealing but that's not what I was implying by "viable alternative." |
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said by digitalfreak:I would gladly pay $0.99 per episode to rent season 3 of True Blood in HD quality over the Internet right now. I'm sure as shit not going to pay $12/mo+ for HBO since they have nothing else I'm interested in. That's the problem. At 0.99 per episode with no commitment you're not a reliable, profitable revenue stream. HBO and others really couldn't care about losing a customer like you. (No offense to you personally). |
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said by d1gw33d:I was discussing 2 different things. People do and will continue to pirate HBO's content due to lack of availability in what would seem is a viable process. Obviously there are plenty of people just saving a buck and stealing but that's not what I was implying by "viable alternative." People continue to pirate because they don't want to pay the asking price. That doesn't make it right. |
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said by digitalfreak:I would gladly pay $0.99 per episode to rent season 3 of True Blood in HD quality over the Internet right now. I'm sure as shit not going to pay $12/mo+ for HBO since they have nothing else I'm interested in. Wait what? True blood season 3 is 12 episodes. Unless you're saying you can't finish 12 episodes in a month, i don't see your point.
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said by fifty nine:said by Network Guy:said by d1gw33d:People will continue to download your content at an alarming rate because you offer no viable alternative. Yep. Bittorrent for the win. Of course execs refuse to accept this reality. It doesn't bode well for shareholder value. What reality? That people want to access content without paying? zzzzzz
Turn on your tv with a digital antenna attached, there is some free tv.
The reason those channels are able to offer you free tv is because they have advertisements.
Not only do they have ads, but they interrupt the content, and are much longer than the ads found on alternatives such as hulu (though hulu cant cross the border quite as easy).
But wait, on the internet you have potential for way more advertising, as banner ads can be constantly changing throughout streams.
So more money can be made on ads alone on the internet? If traditional free ota tv was just moved to the internet theyd make more money off of the ads alone, since apparently a single 30 second ad per commercial break is enough for hulu to get by, 3 or more should be better, plus banner ads.
Then again that would be a lot of bandwidth, but wait, if usage caps were reasonable, multicast and P2P could save the day :P, P2P taking most of the server load off of broadcast networks. |
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