Topic 'Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of)' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810779 en Wed, 22 May 2013 22:31:23 EDT Wed, 22 May 2013 22:31:23 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24817588 said by Gbcue:

I'll believe the AT&T HSPA+ when I see it.

It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
Apparently the backhaul is in place's in part's of the US because a user on HowardForums was able to achieve 6+mbps on an HSPA iPhone which isn't even an HSPA+ phone. I am getting 4mbps right now, 6 is right in line with what a lot of T-Mobile HSPA+ customer's are getting.


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I'll believe the AT&T HSPA+ when I see it.

It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
AT&T has already been deploying the equipment for this last year to the market's they have planned, that way they can activate it all at once and throw it in everyone's face's. It takes a long time for T-Mobile to do anything because they are the smallest wireless provider in the US with the smallest network and least amount of money. If AT&T really wanted to throw all their egg's in one basket they could beat VZW to the punch and have their whole network overlaid by 2012 if they really wanted.
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said by fiberguy:

At least Verizon is actually doing, and not "sitting back, waiting".. which is a slam to the consumer's face and to the public in general in which it got spectrum from in order TO build out the next gen network.

Don't you see any issue with that?
Who are you and what happened to the real fiberguy?
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And honestly I wanted to really see how fast Verizon 3G was in a rural area (full "3G"). Yeah, 125kbps down and 47kbps up. Basically EDGE with a 3G icon.

There's a difference between the 3G icon and actual 3G speeds. So if there's anything I have to say about Verizon, it's that they can easily deploy LTE and not really have "LTE"-like bandwidth to support it.
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At least Verizon is actually doing, and not "sitting back, waiting".. which is a slam to the consumer's face and to the public in general in which it got spectrum from in order TO build out the next gen network.

Don't you see any issue with that?
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It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
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Don't you see any issue with that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24812080 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:26 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811940 said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either.
In Illinois they extended 3G coverage from Chicago metro area to south within I-55 highway and its bigger villages/towns. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811940 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:36:39 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811685 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811685 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:32:04 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811393 said by BF69:

said by tiger72:

said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts.
Too little too late. My area still doesn't have at&t 3G within 60 miles of me. Verizon's 3G has been here for 3 years. I'll see LTE from Verizon before I see 3G from at&t. Crap like that is why the vast majority of people here have Verizon service even though at&t regular cell service has the same coverage and quality.
I doubt that. Verizon has had the advantage of being able to upgrade its same digital network for the past 15 years. CDMAOne->CDMA2000-> EVDO are all upgrades to the exact same network. ATT (and TMO) have had to overlay their 2g networks with 3g coverage. In essence, Verizon is running one network, and has been running and expanding it for 15 years. ATT is running two. With LTE, Verizon's back at square one just like ATT and TMO were when they rolled out their 3g. They're now forced to overlay their existing network with a brand-spankin new one. New backend. New radios. New frequency.

So, are you more likely to get Verizon LTE than ATT 3g? Maybe. Maybe not. After looking at the map, you probably won't be seeing mobile speeds above 2.6mbps anytime soon by ANY provider - and that's assuming you're even getting good EvDO speeds in the first place.
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said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts.
Too little too late. My area still doesn't have at&t 3G within 60 miles of me. Verizon's 3G has been here for 3 years. I'll see LTE from Verizon before I see 3G from at&t. Crap like that is why the vast majority of people here have Verizon service even though at&t regular cell service has the same coverage and quality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24811281 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:12:21 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810949 AT&T, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810949 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:03:35 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810934 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810934 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:00:33 EDT Re: Proof is in the pudding (or lack of) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810899 said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts. Some places, like Peoria, IL and Manhattan, KS actually got T-Mobile 3g before ATT 3g - even though ATT had a 3 year head start rolling out its 3g services. There's a thread on howardforums which details ATT's rollouts and it's pretty clear that they're working on expanding 3g coverage.
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I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Proof-is-in-the-pudding-or-lack-of-24810779 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:20:53 EDT