AllanD
join:2006-02-23
Bonita, CA | New t1 connection: Standard CPE Configuration??? Getting set up with a T1 connection for the first time. Trying to save money on renting the router...
ACC offered list of routers in a document called "MIS / PNT - CPE Configurations: Included CPE Configurations:"
I was also notified that ACC typically uses the Cisco 1841 for their clients. This is the relevant portion of the document that I'm referring to:
Offer Speed Ethernet Ports Access configuration CPE
MIS T1 / FT1 up to 2 MARO* (Rack Mount) 2801-2
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS - MSA (no CoS) (Rack Mount) 2801-3
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS - MSA (no CoS) 1841-3
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS (Rack Mount) 2801-2
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS / MSA (Rack Mount) 2801-3
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS / MSA 1841-3
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS 1841-2
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS w/CoS (CoS RT=90%) (Rack Mount) 2801-2
MIS T1/FT1 up to 2 MIS w/CoS (CoS RT=90%) 1841-2
MIS NxT1 up to 2 2xT1 (2 T1's) 2801-2-2XT1
MIS NxT1 up to 2 3xT1 (3 T1's) 2821-3XT1
MIS NxT1 up to 2 4xT1 (4 T1's) 2821-4XT1
Here's my question:
1) What router would be a working alternative? I've seen AdTran T1 routers for WAY cheap on ebay. Am I missing something here?
2) Once I get my router, and ACC installs all the wiring, I'm going to actually have to set up and manage the connection. I'm familiar with setting up cable & wireless rural radio connections in my load balancing router, so I know the basics...but with T1 I'll have to configure IP's from what I understand. And I'm guessing that there will be a lot more to configure. I presume that my ISP (ACC) will provide the setup configuration, and it will only be a matter of me logging into the router and plugging things in. Can anyone confirm if this is the case? I'm worried that I'll be left with a few wires and a router, and basically need to call in a guru to get the connection setup. Is it anymore complicated of a process than configuring a non-DHCP connection?
Thanks,
Allan |
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 carpRejected
join:2002-10-30 | Adtran if you want to save money over a CISCO.
Cisco to Adtran reference chart : »www.interlinkweb.com/systemics/e···5-10.pdf |
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | more to the point -- the adtran "ios-clone" is actually very similar in command structure and feel to cisco's monolithic ios.
most carriers (from small shops all the way up to xo and qwest) that i have worked with will bring in a 1ru adtran box with an 8xt1 card installed. this will give you the ability to use ethernet for the handoff and you can do whatever you want for router options.
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 ksw_92
join:2001-05-13
La Verne, CA | reply to AllanD
If you're going down the BYOR path you'll simply need to get the PPP info for the T1 side of the link as well as your static IP info. It's pretty easy to set up the Adtrans for basic access routing duties. You might have to play with the T1 interface config (framing and timing parameters) but a call into your ISP should help you establish any non-default parameters.
If you've never done a T1 install, make sure the LEC puts the network interface somewhere where you can see the status lights without too much trouble. |
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carpRejected
join:2002-10-30 | reply to AllanD
Netvanta 3430 is what Qwest has been using as CPE for one of our customers MPLS network |
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tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | said by carp:Netvanta 3430 is what Qwest has been using as CPE for one of our customers MPLS network that sounds about right.
i've actually recommended those as a cpe for many customers who are looking for n*t1 in a 1ru form factor that won't cost you an arm and a leg (cisco, juniper, etc).
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AllanD
join:2006-02-23
Bonita, CA | reply to AllanD
said by tubbynet:more to the point -- the adtran "ios-clone" is actually very similar in command structure and feel to cisco's monolithic ios. most carriers (from small shops all the way up to xo and qwest) that i have worked with will bring in a 1ru adtran box with an 8xt1 card installed. this will give you the ability to use ethernet for the handoff and you can do whatever you want for router options. q. said by tubbynet:said by carp:Netvanta 3430 is what Qwest has been using as CPE for one of our customers MPLS network that sounds about right. i've actually recommended those as a cpe for many customers who are looking for n*t1 in a 1ru form factor that won't cost you an arm and a leg (cisco, juniper, etc). q. Thanks for all the info everyone. I really like the look of that NetVanta 3430 - looks like something I can easily handle, especially w/ a GUI and step-by-step wizards and such.
I'm a bit lost on this "1ru" mention, particularly:
"bring in a 1ru adtran box with an 8xt1 card installed. this will give you the ability to use ethernet for the handoff and you can do whatever you want for router options." ....
That sounds cheap...and I've already got a load balancing router. Does the 1ru adtranbox with the 8xt1 convert the signal basically? Where can I find one of these?
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tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | said by AllanD:I'm a bit lost on this "1ru" mention, particularly: 1ru == 1 rack unit. terms of space. getting 8*t1 in a 1ru form factor is pretty hard to do -- especially with cisco routers and wic cards.
"bring in a 1ru adtran box with an 8xt1 card installed. this will give you the ability to use ethernet for the handoff and you can do whatever you want for router options." ....
That sounds cheap...and I've already got a load balancing router. Does the 1ru adtranbox with the 8xt1 convert the signal basically? Where can I find one of these?
the reason i mention this -- most customers who use some sort of hosted/managed internet service using bonded t1's dont have the technical equipment to actually terminate the t1's properly on a router. leased line circuits have expensive gear because they fundamentally operate differently than ethernet handoffs. there are controllers and such that allow you to "peak into the circuit" and gather a lot of information about signalling and such that isn't seen on an ethernet handoff. that being said...
many customers just want an ethernet handoff from the carrier to they can put it into their firewall, linux based router, linksys soho line, etc. device. the netvanta does just that. it handles up to 8 bonded t1's and puts them together in a nice ethernet package to be used at the customer's discretion.
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