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wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

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Verizon Wireless 4g beta testing

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Above is a screen shot from the 4g speed test my friend took.

For the last several months I have been seeing SUV's (with Alcatel-Lucent logos on them) parked on the sides of the roads with big antennas attached to them and they would just sit there for hours. I figured they were doing tests of some sort. I was talking to a friend about what they were doing because one day I saw them parked where he works and he said they were doing 4g testing for Verizon.

Anyhow, yesterday my buddy told me he got broadband installed and that it was wireless through Verizon. I figured it was just 3g. But then he showed me a speed test and he was getting or 12mb down and 4mb up!!! He told me that the installer said they are doing a 60 person beta test (service is free) and then they would have to pay afterwards.

I asked my friend what the modem looked like and he said about a 10"x10" black box. I searched all over the internet for more info about the 4g modem or just more info on 4g in general. However, it seems like Verizon is trying to keep it a secret.

I asked my friend to take some pictures of the modem and as soon as he sends them to me I will post them.

The town that this is in is Edinboro, PA. It’s only a town of under 10,000 people, but it does have a PA state university.

I figured I would post this info about the 4g in case anyone was interested because I can’t seem to find any info on Verizon’s 4g, modems, or locations of service.


Robotics
See You On The Dark Side
Premium
join:2003-10-23
Louisa, VA

Wow! Impressive speeds...what can I say.


Bosgarage57

join:2010-09-02
Sevierville, TN
reply to wig58

wow that looks amazing, wonder how long it'll take to get around the US? With speeds like that wonder what the prices would be like



gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
kudos:3

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They are launching 30 markets by years end. I believe they plan to be 4G for their entire network by 2013.

»news.vzw.com/LTE/Overview.html



xrayman

join:2008-12-09
Kansas City
kudos:1

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reply to wig58

wig58, 12.97Mbs is 13 megs in my book. Very nice speed at 5 miles out of town, but it is on an unloaded tower and system. Will be great if you could post more info about the device.


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

said by xrayman:

wig58, 12.97Mbs is 13 megs in my book. Very nice speed at 5 miles out of town, but it is on an unloaded tower and system. Will be great if you could post more info about the device.
My buddy is supposed to send me some pictures of the modem tonight, but I might go visit him tonight just to check it out myself. I will upload the pictures and give you some more info as soon!


xrayman

join:2008-12-09
Kansas City
kudos:1

Could you have him do a »testmy.net/ and a »www.speedtest.net/ speed test? Also try to download three big iso files from three different servers at the same time to find the average speed. What about ping times, do a »www.pingtest.net/ test.


heimdm

join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
reply to gdm

If you have an NFL team in your city, you are getting 4g. Verizon stated the 30 markets would be NFL markets.

There are 32 teams, 2 in New York. Oakland and San Francisco are not that afar away.


heimdm

join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN
reply to wig58

Any word if that box is an ethernet handoff?


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

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I stopped over at my friends today and took some pictures and ran some tests. All I have to say is this service is unbelievable! Speeds are insane, only problem is the ping times are a little high but what do you expect from wireless I guess. Also, for some reason even though were located on the east coast it seemed like I was getting better pings and way faster speeds from tests off the west coast. The internet was so fast I had to fired up SABnzbd to download a file off astrawebs server, because couldn’t find a server to max it. Anyhow I'll let the pictures do the talking!

wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA
reply to wig58

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xrayman

join:2008-12-09
Kansas City
kudos:1

What hooks up to the WAN (red) port on the back of the Thomson TG789vn? Is it hooked to an inside Internet gateway/modem or an outside mounted wireless unit?


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

said by xrayman:

What hooks up to the WAN (red) port on the back of the Thomson TG789vn? Is it hooked to an inside Internet gateway/modem or an outside mounted wireless unit?
I would assume the red port is the wan port too. However, it wasn't labeled so I couldn't verify what it really was.( But like you said most likely a wan port). Any how the ethernet cable was going to a DECA
(DirecTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapter, its used to create a network over the coaxial cables). So i'm thinking that they just plugged it in the wrong port? Anyhow, theres no external modem or antenna. Only thing plugged into unit is the DECA, xbox 360 and a power cable.

wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

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said by wig58:

said by xrayman:

What hooks up to the WAN (red) port on the back of the Thomson TG789vn? Is it hooked to an inside Internet gateway/modem or an outside mounted wireless unit?
I would assume the red port is the wan port too. However, it wasn't labeled so I couldn't verify what it really was.( But like you said most likely a wan port). Any how the ethernet cable was going to a DECA
(DirecTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapter, its used to create a network over the coaxial cables). So i'm thinking that they just plugged it in the wrong port? Anyhow, theres no external modem or antenna. Only thing plugged into unit is the DECA, xbox 360 and a power cable.
Actually I just thought of something. I didn't look but mabye the DECA( basically a etherent to coax to ethernet adapter) is used to go outside to another box like a modem and antenna. I guess ill have to check.

wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA
reply to wig58

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I'm thinking this is the modem.

heimdm

join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN

Any model number or anything on the antenna?


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

Not that I can see. There are some numbers on a green label but not the model. I don't know who made the modem/antenna.



xrayman

join:2008-12-09
Kansas City
kudos:1

This is all very interesting, an outside antenna/modem unit! Are you certain this is for use with the Verizon LTE 700 MHz band?
The single red port on the back of the Thomson TG789vn is the WAN port according to the user manual for the device. »www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/···?id=6994


heimdm

join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN

I thought 700MHZ LTE was just going to be USB cards or Expresscards. It is possible what we have of pictures for it to work also. This setup could work for a fixed installation, but it would really seem to good to be true. For this to work the outside contraption is obviously the modem and is handing off via outdoor coax, then converted to Ethernet then plugged into the Thomson modem.

Would seem like a good setup, but almost too good to be true. I hope its how they plan to role out fixed installs.


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

said by heimdm:

I thought 700MHZ LTE was just going to be USB cards or Expresscards. It is possible what we have of pictures for it to work also. This setup could work for a fixed installation, but it would really seem to good to be true. For this to work the outside contraption is obviously the modem and is handing off via outdoor coax, then converted to Ethernet then plugged into the Thomson modem.

Would seem like a good setup, but almost too good to be true. I hope its how they plan to role out fixed installs.
Yes, I would agree too. It does seem to good to be true. From what my friend told me I guess Directv and Verizon teamed up for this new service. A directv installer actually came out and installed everything. The only reason I could see them teaming up with directv would be because of a fixed install setup, so maybe this is what they will be doing once its available.

wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA
reply to xrayman

said by xrayman:

This is all very interesting, an outside antenna/modem unit! Are you certain this is for use with the Verizon LTE 700 MHz band?
The single red port on the back of the Thomson TG789vn is the WAN port according to the user manual for the device. »www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/···?id=6994
Yes I'm pretty positive that thing outside is th modem. On the side of the unit it had "BHR MAC". I'm not sure what "BHR" means but following "BHR MAC" it appeared to be a mac address( aka it has a network card in it).


hhkjhkj

@cox.net
reply to wig58

that doesn't appear to show 4g at all! That is a vdsl gateway from verizon vdsl. Let me gues you used your phone for that test or you login from a usb 3g card.



hkhklhlk

@cox.net
reply to wig58

Sorry I missed the outside picture. the give away would be the imsi number. Can you look that up in a database?
»isquared.nl/?pagelink=52


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

said by hkhklhlk :

Sorry I missed the outside picture. the give away would be the imsi number. Can you look that up in a database?
»isquared.nl/?pagelink=52
I can look it up but I can't make out the numbers from the picture so im going to back to go back to my friends and write them down.

chadd024

join:2008-11-18
Manchester, MD
reply to wig58

That's probably what their business suite is doing with a nice fat fee per month. I would bet my life, this setup is not for residential.


wig58

join:2002-11-16
Springboro, PA

said by chadd024:

That's probably what their business suite is doing with a nice fat fee per month. I would bet my life, this setup is not for residential.
My buddy tells me that he is on a two month free beta, but still gets to keep the service afterwards for (I think he said) $60 a month. However, I doubt verizon is going to offer a 30mb down 5mb up package. I think since he is a beta tester that he is on a uncapped plan. None the less the speed tests prove that that kind of service could be had if the bandwidth was available at the cell tower.


tower

@comcast.net

Given the status of LTE I have a hard time believing this is an LTE product, but the Alcatel-Lucent SUV's might say otherwise. Have him to a tracert and we can confirm if this is running through the LTE EPC.



hjhkjhjk

@cox.net
reply to wig58

He won't do that because it will give you his ip. however, I emailed someone at Verizon and they claim it's LTE now whether they just read the header I don't know. They also say it is rolling out right now.


heimdm

join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN

Regarding the traceroute.. we don't care about his IP, we care about all the other hops.



rawgerz
The hell was that?
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
reply to wig58

Although I find this very interesting, you might have screwed your friend, bud. With the low numbers of betas and your somewhat general area of his location, he might lose his access. Or possibly VZ might cancel the entire area's beta.

But I am happy to hear of this beta so close to my location
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