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SLD
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reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Well by the time it hits DVDs....

As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.


old_dawg
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join:2001-09-22
Westminster, MD

said by SLD:

As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.
A possible cure for that annoyance...

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
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Network Guy
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Since my TV has a computer hooked up to it, usually I'll rip and copy the DVD into the computer straight out of the Netflix envelope before I even bother watching it. The ripping software strips out all the previews and leaves the main menues and title intact.

While the rip and copy is happening, I'm making myself pop corn and serving myself a soft drink. By the time it finishes, it's movie time.



bionicRod
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reply to SLD

said by SLD:

As long as they don't keep locking out the DVD controls - making you watch 15 minutes of previews and commercials to see the title. I've had a few of these.
I have never had a rented blu-ray that you couldn't fast forward through the previews. True, you can't skip it all together, but on the PS3 if you hit ff 2 or 3 times the comercial is over in two seconds. I don't see what the big deal is...


Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
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reply to Network Guy
I'm sure you erase that rip as soon as you return the physical disc.


Network Guy
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New York

Uhh... Sure



Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
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said by Network Guy:

Uhh... Sure
So if one pirates a rental movie, who exactly is future revenue being withheld from? Neflix, the Studio, or both?

Network Guy
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New York

If I were sharing the deleted files via torrents, I suppose both.



Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
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said by Network Guy:

If I were sharing the deleted files via torrents, I suppose both.
Not really sure, if I understood correctly the Studio gets some money on each rental. I suppose Netflix doesn't really care other than you might up your number of DVDs out at one time if you didn't rip.

I suppose the studio could make the argument that most people wouldn't pay a monthly fee just to hold onto the same movie for 2-3 years, they would buy it if they liked it that much. Since they get more revenue off the purchase, perhaps you're withholding that revenue from them.

Network Guy
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The studios or Netflix can think I'm withholding their expected revenue all they want. Different strokes for different folks.. Everyone likes to consume their choice of media in their own way. Some still like the novelty of buying a DVD copy, some like downloading the same DRM-ladden content online, some like to rip and copy from their local video store or online DVD rental service.

Unfortunately for the studios, there's still a vast majority of consumers who like consuming their content in the same traditional media that's easily pirated and the major internet carriers in the US are still busy buying off Congress in order not to deploy uniform broadband access.

I mean.. I've yet to discover anyone who can easily pirate an online stream from Netflix, nor have I witnessed studios and internet carriers develop an online rental platform that feasibly replaces the physical media experience.



Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
kudos:1

said by Network Guy:

The studios or Netflix can think I'm withholding their expected revenue all they want. Different strokes for different folks.. Everyone likes to consume their choice of media in their own way. Some still like the novelty of buying a DVD copy, some like downloading the same DRM-ladden content online, some like to rip and copy from their local video store or online DVD rental service.
Ahhh so you're saying you prefer to consume your media by playing it from a HD. I do to.

I don't rip copies to my media server of movies I rent. I don't own those movies. I'm merely renting them and have rights as long as I have the media in hand. If it is a movie I wish to enjoy multiple times, I'll buy it then rip it to my server. More often than not this ends up being kids movies (hehe).


morbo
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reply to old_dawg

said by old_dawg:

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
If this is what is required to skip the junk on DVDs, god is dead.


bionicRod
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said by morbo:

said by old_dawg:

enter STOP, STOP, MENU and see if that doesn't get you right
to the actual movie's menu screen, bypassing all the junk. OR,
while the promos are running, enter EJECT, and repeat above after LOAD disk. This is hit or miss for me but usually works.
If this is what is required to skip the junk on DVDs, god is dead.
It's not. Just fast forward for God's sake. It's like two button presses per preview. Why would you eject and reload the disc?


SLD
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San Francisco, CA

reply to old_dawg
I've used the stop-stop trick. But most DVDs prevent you from using STOP after loading the disc.



SLD
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San Francisco, CA

reply to bionicRod
Maybe the PS3 doesn't abide by the publisher's lock-outs but WMC and my DVD player do.



Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
kudos:1

Skip will move to the next index marker which is typically the next preview. 3-4 skips on a DVD normally takes me to the menu.



SLD
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

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Yeah, but SKIP and all the other controls are typically locked out on most NetFlix DVDs until you get into the previews. That can take up to a minute of stupid warnings and studio logos.

Lately, even the movie ratings are sometimes locked. Why DVD editors want to force you to view these things blows my mind.



Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
USA
kudos:1

Soon as the Netflix previews start, Skip->Skip->Skip Movie menu. I still have to look a the FBI warning, but I move through the previews easy enough.



SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to SLD
NetFlix doesn't lock out controls on DVDs. They are the exact same ones you would buy at the store. It's the studios that are locking them out. I recall Paramount is one of the biggest offenders on that front. Makes me not want to buy any of their disks... ever.



morbo
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reply to bionicRod
My personal experience is that I can fast forward through some screens but not others. I don't know the pattern, but it's enough for me to prefer digital downloads and streaming and other ways of obtaining content than DVDs and Bluray.


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