http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r2491763 en Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:23:47 EDT Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:23:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2503269 joepwpb : onavi,

Do you have any ideas on how to get that information at the CS4280 Korean site?

I have not tried to load the drivers yet because I am still working on my DSL problem. I'll post the results asap.

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2503269 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:27:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2502331 gunr1 : Look in the file where you extracted the files, see if there are inf files there. If so then you answered your own question, just point the driver update there. If not then run the exe file in the new driver folder, reboot see what happens.

Gunr
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»www.priorityonesupport.com/downl···4280.exe
they are for the cs4280, not the cs4299. on the site, they list the cs4299 drivers for your system, which are listed here:
»www.priorityonesupport.com/downl···201000b/

maybe the cs4299 is just a newer version of the cs4280 since its asking for the cs4299 drivers. it couldn't hurt to try both sets. I would try the cs4280's first, since that's what the chip says]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2501369 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:18:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2501149 joepwpb : Since my last post I rebooted and switched over to the Win 98 side. I have not tired to install the driver yet because I have a much bigger problem at the time. For some reason I cannot connect to my DSL service!!! I am currently on dial-up. So, I have to do some playing with the modem and software because my provider checked and the line is clear.

With regard to the installation I was wondering if I point the software to the correct location would it find the files when it really calls for a setup.exe type launch to install?? It's not like I am pointing it to an INF. Now you know why I would love to have the instructions.

Well, I'm off to work on my DSL. I will check back later tonight.

Thanks

Joe P ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2501149 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:56:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2500425 gunr1 : I think I would just try and install the driver you downloaded m( setup.exe after you unzip it. The number on the chip is usually the correct one. Vice the paperwork.

If you install the new drivers, they should overwrite the current ones, if they are identified the same?

Try that first. If that does not work, try the update drivers button in device manager, dont let it search for the driver, choose the have disk option and point it to the unzipped file location.

Gonna head home here in a few, will check your progress from there. Gotta go to Walmart see if they have ' Serious Sam the Second Encounter".
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I went to that site and downloaded both the driver file and the update. I was hoping that there were instructions for installation and removal in the zip but there were none. I did try to remove all assignments for the previously installed driver (which was incorrect) but before you can do anything it automatically loads the file again. so there must be some "trick" to cleanly uninstall the driver. I believe there are instructions on the site onvr found but it is not in english:

»www.trigem.co.kr/html/front/supp···10&C8=27

I tried several online translators but had no success.

What is your opinion about the differences in what the driver wizard found and the emachine site stated (CS4299) but what I found on the chip itself??

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2500186 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:18:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2497716 gunr1 : If it is a CS 4280 then here are two sites that have it.

»www.awc.co.uk/resources/downloads.asp

»www.chemusa.com/6120_05.htm

The best thing I can recommend to get old drivers out of the way, is to remove all sound devices in device manager ( except the wave modem stuff ), reboot and let it rediscover it during windows boot. Let it determine it as an unknown device. Then install the new drivers.

Good luck.

Gunr
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[text was edited by author 2002-02-14 13:19:24]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2497716 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:17:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2495640 joepwpb : YOU ARE 'DA MAN!!!!

I am lost for words...you hit it exactly!!! So, I took a look and found that it is CS4280 not the 4299 which is listed at the emachnie help site, the trigem site or the same number (4299) which was detected by the driver wizard. I don't recall finding the 4280, do you? Let me know what your thoughts are about using something other than the CS4280 found on the mother board.

When I first looked at the MOBO I was looking just in front of what you marked in the picture because I was looking for a "chip" in the sense that it would be a black colored raised piece. There was something like that and it had the following markings on it:

FW82801AA
F048??68
SL322
Intel '99
Phillipines

Well, its 8 a.m. and time to move on so I will check the thread tonight. Again, many thanks to you and "gunr" for all your help.

Joe P
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2495640 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:57:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2495491 joepwpb : I found a site put up by an individual for eMachine help. The link is:

»e4all.freeservers.com/

At the top of the page is a link to "Motherboard Info" which will take you to a list of all eMachine motherboards in use. There you will find a link to the Anaheim-3 which has a color photo of the board. I think this photo is much better than any I can take because it is free of the cables and wires. I do have the capabilities of taking a picture with my WebCam if need be.

Additionally at that site is a driver download page which list the CS4281 and CS4299 for sound with the following notation:

The Anaheim-3 mobo can use either CS4281 OR CS4299 Audio chipset depending on version. Make sure which chipset your board uses.

I downloaded both now all I have to do is figure out how to install and uninstall the correct file. As I stated in my original post I tried another Crystal driver and it hosed the system. Not only did it not work, that driver is "stuck" in the system on the Win 98 side and every effort I made to remove it failed. My next move is to poke around the registry and see if I can "clean it out".

Remember that I have this device operating normally, with the correct factory installed driver, on the ME side if you can figure out how to "look" at that system and determine how to identify the correct driver.

Thanks again for your help!!!

Joe P

******OOPS!!!***********

After I got done posting this message I discovered that there was a second page to this thread!!!! I guess I went to sleep too early last night!!!

I went to that Trigem link and noticed that the CS4299 has the words AC97 AU?? next to it so that is a real strong indication that it is the correct driver. Do you agree??
[text was edited by author 2002-02-14 07:28:02]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2495491 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:21:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494131 onavi : on your link;) I added the red circle ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494131 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:01:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494086 gunr1 : Nice pic Onavi, where did you find that? Great Job. The site I listed has on driver(s) for that M/b. CS4281 and CS4299 are there
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494086 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:56:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494045 onavi : looks like the anahiem 3 board uses either the cs4281 or the cs4299. the only way to tell is to look at the chip. what is circled in red is the sound chip. Just look and see what version of the chip the mobo has on it.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2494045 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:52:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493933 gunr1 : Here is where I found it.
»e4all.freeservers.com/mobos/mobos3.htm
Crystal CS4299 & CA 4281
For Anahiem 3

Hope it works.

Gunr
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[text was edited by author 2002-02-14 00:00:53]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493933 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:40:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493897 onavi : on most systems I have seen, the sound chip should be right below the onboard sound. it looks like TriGem does use the Crystal sound. »www.trigem.co.kr/html/front/supp···å(SOUND)

they have both the sound chips listed. if you can take a picture of the board that might help, since I never have seen a picture of the board. It will probably be a small square chip infront of one of the PCI slots]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493897 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:35:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493820 joepwpb : The machine came with ME pre-loaded so I know the driver works...that is what I am running on now. I have 98 on another partition and I have a second hard drive awaiting XP. When I loaded the 98, plug and play did not find a driver for it and I did not know where to point it to. So, at this point I have no sound on the 98 side.

I have the cover off the machine so do you know if I can visually identify the chip and is there a way to determine what one of the CS drivers it uses??

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493820 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:28:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493728 onavi : »www.emachines.com/support/view_f···986892#7

so you are running 98,ME and XP? cirrus doesn't provide a driver for ME, but I would guess you could use the 98 driver, at least you don't need it for all 3 OS's. WinXP doesn't include a driver for the sound? I was reading on sites that it did for the Crystal sound. Lemme see if I can find were I read that]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493728 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:17:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493611 joepwpb : Great find onavi!!!

Can you send me the link where you got the motherboard information on the e-machine site?? I also discovered (I think) that it uses the Crystal sound chip but I don't know how to verify it on my system. As you may not know, I am currently running Win ME on one drive that has the driver loaded (from the factory) and working fine. I need the driver file so I can go to my other drive and load either 98 or XP. So maybe there is a way to find out what Crystal driver it uses from the current OS.

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493611 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:06:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493566 onavi : »www.cirrus.com/Drivers/audiodrv/···pSysID=1

the drivers for the cs4281 can be found there. couldnt hurt to give them a try]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493566 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:01:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493524 joepwpb : I rebooted but the only information displayed was the Phoenix Bios data and two splash screens.

Within the last half hour I was able to find a site which had the specs for my system. The motherboard was listed as:

Anaheim-3 Rev 3

I searched for that brand/manufacturer but came up empty.

Additionally, I went to a driver site called Drivers-Online and ran their "driver wizard" which detected the following:

82801AA 8XX CHIPSET AC'97 AUDIO CONTROLLER

Crystal WDM Audio 98SE.zip

I tried to download the file but the link was broken. I don't know how accurate this wizard is so don't bet the bank on that information.

Thanks

Joe P

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493524 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:58:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493482 onavi : This is the motherboard on that system

eTower 700, 667ir, 700irx, 766id, eMonster 800, 1000b
Anaheim 3 Micro ATX (ATX V1.2 form factor) motherboard, TriGem, Korea Intel Socket-370 (370pin PPGA Socket) for Intel FC-PGA Celeron CPUs Integrating on-chip Graphics controller and Memory Controller Hub (GMCH): Intel FW82810, as well as Intel I/O Controller Hub (ICH) and AC 97' CODEC: Intel FW82801 onto the motherboard eliminates the need for more expensive graphic and audio add-in cards.

I got it from emachines website.

»www.xs4all.nl/~elhvb/mboards/trigem.html
eTower 500id, 533id2, 533id, 533iR, 566ir, 566irx, 600id, 600ix, 700, 600is, 667ir, 700irx; eMonster 800
Anaheim-2/2A/3 Micro ATX (ATX V1.2 form factor) motherboard, TriGem, Korea Intel Socket-370 (370pin PPGA Socket) for Intel PentiumIII and Celeron CPUs, Integrated graphics controller Intel FW82810 core and ITE8702F Super I/O controller Crystal CS4280/CS4281 built-in Sound Blaster Pro, MPC-3, MPU-401 compatible Audio Enhanced Stereo full duplex operation.

I got that from the link above. It looks like the system board uses a Crystal CS4280 or a CS4281 sound chip. Sisoft Sandra 2002 should be able to check that. I'll look around and see what drivers i can find]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493482 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:54:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493231 gunr1 : Well I have researched and can only determine that intel provides the Host controller ( IHC ) AC'97 82801aa that controls the audio chip set. I can not determine your exact mother board from e-machines or from your previous post. There are three sound chips ( the best I can figure ) that Intel put on boards with the 810e chipset.

ESS, Sound Blaster PCI 128 and SoundMax. I would guess that you have the Sound Max integrated sound system. If you click on the sound card info in Sandra, does it give us any further clue to it's identity?

One easy way to find out exact model of motherboard is to catch the numbers displayed in the bios post screen. When the big E appears, hit esc. then hit pause break ( third key to the right of F-12. Write down the numbers at the top of screen and at the bottom of the screen. If it continues past this too fast for you just hit CTRL-ALT-DEL immediately, this will reboot, do this as many times as it takes to get the numbers. this will not hurt the machine or windows, provided you do it as soon as bios screen changes.

Try this , intel boards are labeled like CA810E, SE440BX, CA815EEA2 etc. see what you can get me.

we will get this

Gunr
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Directway SRS, Satmet5, Win98se]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2493231 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:32:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2492191 joepwpb : ...Never give up pizza...I know, being Italian!!!

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2492191 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:02:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2491906 gunr1 : I will go see what I can find in a few minutes/ Have to eat pizza.

gunr
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Directway SRS, Satmet5, Win98se]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2491906 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:33:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2491763 joepwpb : Thanks gunr...

I collected the following information from SiSoft Sandra and Belarc Advisor:

PC Manufacturer and Model: E-Machine 1000B

MainBoard: Intel Corporation Whitney System CR Platform
Revision A0

BIOS: Phoenix Technologies LTD 6.00 01/08/2001

Display: Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller

Audio: AC'97 Driver for Intel(r) 82801AA Controller

I hope this is the information you are seeking and it is adequate to locate the appropriate driver.

I went to that Intel page you posted but I don't think it does any good for me because I don't have the driver to install. So, I don't know what I would do with a "Chipset Software Installation Utility", without the software.

Frankly, most of your explanation was beyond my scope of knowledge. All I am looking for is a .exe, .drv or .inf file to enable me to use this on-board controller.

I greatly appreciate your time and assistance.

Thanks again

Joe P ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2491763 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:19:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2490095 gunr1 : What is the motherboard Model# / manufacturer of your PC & Model #?

Intel is the manufacturer of the 82801AA ( IHC ) chip that uses the AC'97 Intel Standard, it is not the sound chip, it is an I/O controller. You can get installation drivers for this here:
»support.intel.com/support/chipse···ers.htm

"AC'97 is a concept which is not connected with a motherboard. It is a specification from Intel for an audio codec architecture (AC - Audio Codec) and digital interface AC-link, which connects this codec with Digital Controller. The latter can be realized in different ways: on a program level (only a bus controller is integrated into a chipset), on a soft hardware level (HSP, DSP), on a hardware one (DSP). In this case a controller or even the whole sound card are said to be implemented in the AC'97-standard (AC'97 compliant). "

for specific sound drivers we will need a little more information, as requested above. Open the case and look on the board for identification. Or just get it from the post screen, when it is counting memory. Should be at the top or bottom of the screen.

Gunr
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[text was edited by author 2002-02-13 17:49:46]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2490095 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:20:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2488429 joepwpb : It is a pre-built, store bought machine and the driver is on the restore CD but does not work. I have a second hard drive with another OS and I need the driver to get the audio functioning since it is not found on the OS CD-ROM.

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2488429 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:15:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2488219 penguin356 : Who makes the motherboard? Why not go back to the vendor? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2488219 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:47:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2487617 joepwpb : No Problem!!! I really appreciate your assistance.

That was a great link and you would think it had to be there. Well, no such luck. I noticed at one site that they had a "Most Wanted Drivers" list and my driver was not on there but there were over 4,000 folks looking for an Opti Audio driver!!!

I fired off a few requests for the driver at more than one site. I'll post the results when received. In the mean time...back to searching!!!

Thanks again,

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2487617 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:34:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2487081 mens rea : Sorry that was of no use. Here's another place to look, if you haven't looked here already: »www.microsoft.com/technet/treevi···ault.asp. Some sites require registration. It's gotta be there somewhere!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2487081 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:22:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2484301 joepwpb : Thanks mens rea...

I went to that site earlier today and saw that driver but I don't think it is for the chip I have. According to the information in device manager it is an Intel not Avance. The information is as follows:

"AC'97 Driver for Intel 82801AA Controller"
"Driver Manufacturer: Intel"
"Driver Provider: Microsoft"
"Driver Date: 06/08/2001"

So, based on that data I believe I have to find the driver for the Intel. As I stated in my original post I got duped into trying the Crystal manufacturer driver and it hosed my system.

Thanks for your help...

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2484301 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:57:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2483094 mens rea : Joe P, I just checked the link in my post and it certainly didn't lead to the page I was at. Weird. Hopefully this link will take you to the search page: »drivers.on-line.net.nz/. Enter the following info:

Information to find: Avance 97 (exactly as written)*
Category: Sound
Operating System: Any

*If you don't you will get no results. Your search should turn up five Avance zip files for download, including one for the 82801AA chipset. Hope this helps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2483094 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:00:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2482287 joepwpb : Thanks for the information...

I went to the Intel site but could not find any information on the "828" family chipset. Also, the other link, to the Driver Wizard site, did not produce any drivers for the Intel AC'97 chip.

thanks again

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2482287 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:41:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2481914 vice8686 : Well, more info is needed according to Intel. Here's a link to Intel's download page for software & utilities. Hopefully you find what you're looking for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2481914 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:58:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2481816 mens rea : Can't tell you if these are the ones you need but here's the link to check them out: »drivers.on-line.net.nz/cgi-bin/search.dll]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2481816 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:47:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2480186 joepwpb : Does any have or know where I can get the following audio chipset driver:

AC'97 Driver for Intel 82801AA Controller

I found some drivers for the AC'97 but they were not by Intel and they hosed up my system. Some were Cirrus Logic, Crystal, Avance, etc.

Thanks

Joe P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2480186 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:05:14 EDT