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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY

[DISH] Dish Network All HD Channels pixelizing and losing audio

Has anyone else been having trouble with their HD Channels? We have the ViP722 DVR-HD receiver.

Since October 11th, 2010 after the automatic upgrade, all our HD channels have been pixelizing or losing audio, every 10-15 seconds. I checked the signal strength on 61.5 Spotbeam Transponder 13 and it's 37. That is the max we get. We have a clear view of the horizon and it was a clear sunny day.

I called DN and they had me reset the receiver but the problems were still happening. So, I have a Service Tech coming tomorrow.

When I first had problems with the 61.5 orbital location, they relocated the dish to a higher location on the house. Everything was fine until this past Monday.

When I talked to DN techs they told me that they had no reports from other people in my area so last night, I called a friend who lives a couple miles away from us and they have DN too and asked her if she was having trouble with the HD channels and she told me yes and that it started Monday and they called DN too and were told to unplug the receiver for 10 minutes and then plug it in. After it booted up, within 3 minutes the HD channels acted up again. They didn't bother having a tech come out as they could watch the SD channels instead.

So I called DN again last night and told them that I spoke to a friend who is in my area who also has DN and they were experiencing the same problems. DN told me that each receiver is different and I should still have the service tech come out tomorrow.

DN doesn't want to admit that the problem is on their end so they send a tech out and charge you for a service call.

When we got up today, the problems all of a sudden have disappeared. DN says a software update wouldn't cause the problems with the HD channels, But I'm sure they just don't want to admit they aren't flawless.

Another thing, initially, when we had DN installed, we would lose signal every signal time it rained, even if it was a light drizzle and I would call DN and tell them the signal strength and they told me anything above 25 was acceptable.

When I called them on Friday about all the HD channels messing up since Monday, they told me that because the signal strength was low (37) that the 61.5 dish needs to be tweaked. This will be the 3rd time they have sent a tech out to "tweak" the dish. I don't think he can do much more. He uses a signal strength meter while he is on the ladder and locks it in and I know it's secure so it shouldn't have moved enough to need to be tweaked.

I'm locked in to a two-year contract with them so I am basically stuck. We had DirecTV and switched because they were offering us $15.00 a month off their regular rate for 12 months. But then they raised their rates a few dollars so by the time I'm done it will actually be costing me about $20.00 more a month than I was paying for DirecTV.

I'm going to be asking a couple other questions in a different thread.

I thank everyone in advance for their advice.


doc4pcs

join:2001-12-21
Gladys, VA

Re: [DISH] Dish Network All HD Channels pixelizing and losing au

said by slras:

I'm locked in to a two-year contract with them so I am basically stuck. We had DirecTV and switched because they were offering us $15.00 a month off their regular rate for 12 months. But then they raised their rates a few dollars so by the time I'm done it will actually be costing me about $20.00 more a month than I was paying for DirecTV.

That is what happened to me. I ended up paying more for dish than I was paying for directv.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
Then too, we lost a few channels that were free on DirecTV but in order to get them we would have to go with the next package above the 250 channels. When we went with HD for life, it really wasn't free. It was either a "One-Time" fee of $99.00 or I had to change to "Paperless Billing" and "Auto-Pay" and that changed my contract back to 2-years from the date we changed to "Auto-Pay"

There is always a catch/gimmick.

Anyways, the technician was here and told me that there was nothing he could do that it was a problem with the satellites orbit being and that DN would have to reposition the satellite. I know that they are in a geostationary orbit, but that it can fluctuate a few degrees and they have to correct it from time too time, but DN wants the customer to think that it is a problem at the home and won't admit that the actual problem is from DN's end.


Hayward
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said by slras:

Has anyone else been having trouble with their HD Channels? We have the ViP722 DVR-HD receiver.

Since October 11th, 2010 after the automatic upgrade, all our HD channels have been pixelizing or losing audio, every 10-15 seconds. I checked the signal strength on 61.5 Spotbeam Transponder 13 and it's 37.
Even for way up there on a clear day that is far to low. Something was not set up right. Skew angle would be my guess seeing one bird OK but not the arc of several skew adjusts for at a given location.

And particularly if a spot beam which should be aimed generally right at you and strongest of all.

But if you are looking at 61.5 then you have multi dishes and could be a number of things going on.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
Hi Hayward,

We have a 2-dish set up and they run the 61.5 to either the 110 or 119 LNB and then the 110 an 119 LNB are connected together so it is only one cable coming from the dish into the house to the receiver, then they use a Switch/Splitter to connect to the 2 tuners on our DVR. They used to have the 110 and 119 dual LNB Dish and have the cable from each output go into a switch/splitter and then run two cables from the dish to both receivers. This was before they started offering locals or had the 61.5

The signal strength on the 61.5 Spotbeam Transponder 13 is never higher than 38 and it was solid the whole time last week when we were having problems with sound dropping out and pixelizing on screen. If we switch to transponder 14, the signal strength doubles at the 61.5

He checked the Azimuth/Skew/Elevation, etc and everything was right on and at peak signal strength and no condensation on any of the connections.

After calling them again on Saturday to tell them that another person we know was having the exact same problems on all the HD channels. All of a sudden on Sunday when we got up, there were no problems at all and it was even raining Sunday morning. So I called DN again and they still insisted on sending the tech out. He got here and checked everything and said there was nothing he could do becuase everything was aimed and connected correctly.

After the tech left, I called DN again and told them that the tech said everything was fine and there wasn't anything he could do and that he said it was something at DN's end.

They had me check the software version and told me that they had done one last Monday and then we got a new one on this Sunday so that is what fixed the problem. But when I initially called them they told me a software update wouldn't cause this problem and that it was most likely a dish alignment problem.

As I said earlier, the signal strength was fine during all of the pixelizing and audio cutting out.

DN told me they would credit my account for the service call but it will be interesting to find out if they do or not.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
There is an issue with the satellite that gives us our HD locals. Transponder 13 on satellite 61.5 is where we get our locals. Intertech digital, the local dish service provider, told me that the satellite has either been moved, or it has slipped it's position. People north on Niagara Falls, where I am, are getting signal strength of 12 on TP 13.

I had intertech out twice in one week due to low signal strength on TP 13, finally, the field service manager for intertech told me about the satellite issue.

Last week, my locals were horrible, almost unwatchable, just as you describe. Over the weekend, they cleared up. Call Dish and bitch about the low signal strength on transponder 13, they won't fix it until enough people bitch about it.

By the way, you are lucky you get a signal of 38 on TP 13, I only get 26!! My locals go out for EVERY cloud! My signal strength for TP 14 is over 60, and TP 21 is almost 60, it's just TP 13 that is low.
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thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
reply to Hayward
said by Hayward:

Even for way up there on a clear day that is far to low. Something was not set up right. Skew angle would be my guess seeing one bird OK but not the arc of several skew adjusts for at a given location.

And particularly if a spot beam which should be aimed generally right at you and strongest of all.

But if you are looking at 61.5 then you have multi dishes and could be a number of things going on.
Wrong, it is a satellite issue. People all over Western NY are having the SAME issue with our locals.
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Hayward
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said by thewolfman:

Wrong, it is a satellite issue. People all over Western NY are having the SAME issue with our locals.
AND ONLY??? That is a different matter... OP is saying they are having the problem with multiple sources, which would point to set not DISH.

Not surprising though that far north and 61.5 be well off the east coast in the Atlantic.... also a 50 deg sighting difference...rare people have that wide a clear shot without something in the way be it trees, buildings or weather.

Especially that far north where your look angle is so low.

61.5 is also an aging bird... might be running out of gas to keep it in place.

Mainly it had been the international bird... guess they have been putting minor market HD on it now at least east coast the only that really see it well.

PS.... KW is about 81 deg east so it is well out over the Atlantic not really directly shining on anything and often going through weather.
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thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
Do you consider a 37 degree angle low??? That is the elevation angle for 61.5 for my area, also the OP.

Can't you at least pretend to know what you are talking about?
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
reply to thewolfman
Thewolfman, There is an issue with the satellite that gives us our HD locals. Transponder 13 on satellite 61.5 is where we get our locals, and that the satellite has either been moved, or it has slipped it's position. People north on Niagara Falls were getting signal strength of 12 on TP 13.

That is literally what the technician from Intertech told me.

He also told me that they have been discussing when they have their employee meetings that they wish Dish Network would tell their customers that they are having these problems but instead, they tell the customer they need a service call to check the alignment and connections, etc. But then when the tech gets here there is nothing he can do because it isn't a problem on the customer's end.

It was odd though because after I called DN again to tell them that someone else in the area was experiencing the exact same problems and they also called DN to report it. (when they told me they hadn't any reports from any one in our area) the next morning, everything was fine but they still insisted on sending a tech out.

Which ended up being a waste of time but fortunately, we happen to be DVR'ing things in HD when we were having the sound and pixelization problems so I had something to show the tech, but of course, it wouldn't show the signal strength from the time it was happening.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
In my opinion, the low signal strength and the audio/pixelization issue aren't related. The audio/pixelization issue is gone, but TP 13 signal strength isn't stronger.

I have heard that most HD will be moved off of 61.5 to the sat @72 around the end of this year. Perhaps that will fix our issue.

I called dish, advanced tech support and the women insisted on sending someone out to repeak the dish after a tech was here the previous day. The tech had repeaked the dish the previous day and dish STILL sent out a tech. Intertech digital is caught in the middle going on service calls to which there is no solution.

I'm just glad the audio/pixel issue is gone.

Now I just want to be able to watch the Sabres.........................
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
If they switch to the 72 orbital location it will mean another dish to be installed and I don't know if our landlord will be happy with another dish on the house or deck. He's pretty reasonable, but when you have a lot of dishes on the back of the house it's not pretty lol.

When we had DirecTV, I don't know if the previous tenants had a professional install or it was a self install, but they put the 3 LNB dish on the corner of our deck and the neighbors garage roof would block out the signal if we got more than 2 inches of snow and that was another reason I switched to Dish Network as we lost our signal for over 12 hours. I had to take a broom and brush off as much snow as I could reach with a broom and it was just barely enough to get some signal. Then during that time, we could only watch our local with a DTA converter box, but had to reposition the antenna to get some stations and then we would lose the ones we were able to get.

My LCD HDTV has a built-in Analog/Digital tuner and I can actually pick up WNGS 67-1, -2, -3 better than I can WGRZ 2-1, -2, -3. Also, I can pick up low power analog stations on channel 15 (which I believe is the low power analog religious channel for Digital 26-1), 25 CBLF, 36 CITS and 41 CIII, but they are snowy and don't always come in so I don't watch them very often.

These are the actual stations and not the digital channels. i.e. If I go to channel 41 it comes in, but if I scan for channels it won't pick up 25-1 36-1 and 41-1 I think I can sometimes pick up Bridges TV too, but never catch it during station identification but the programming seems to be Islamic.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
What dish do you have now??

I have the Eastern arc(EA) dish installed. The EA is one dish that looks at three orbital locations, 61.5, 72 & 77 degree's. It was a no-cost to me installation from dish.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
We have two DISH 500's The 110 and 119 which points towards the Southwest and the other actually has the dual LNB casing, but only the 61.5 and if you are on the ground looking up at the dish, it's on the right side of the casing on the LNB mounting arm and pointing to the Southeast. But if you are facing the same way the dish is, it would be on the left or East side of the LNB mounting arm of the dish.

So, I don't know if we would need a new dish or the "Super Dish" I've seen pictures of it before and it uses the dual LNB casing and then there is a bracket that mounts to the dish to pick up the 3rd satellite.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
There are HD channels that you can't view right now. You need the 1000.4 dish to view all available HD channels.

The single dish would replace both dishes you currently have, and would "look" at 61.5, 72, and 77. Call dish and ask for the Eastern arc upgrade.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
I just got off the phone with DN and they told me that the 1000.4 dish is for people who can't pick up the 110 and 119. They told me that they have no plans to upgrade or switch the HD and Local Channels from the 61.5 and that I don't need the new dish. (it would seem to me that people would be able to pick up the 110 and 119 much easier being they are higher in the horizon than the 61.5. Unless there were trees, mountains or building blocking the 110 and 119.)

I also specifically asked about the Eastern arc upgrade and they told me that our region doesn't need it.

Every time I call DN, I get a different story. At least here, I can find more information than DN wants to let their customers know about. (Even Intertech is more informative than DN is)

DN told me that if they ever plan on doing an upgrade, they would let customers know way in advance so they could have the dish installed and be set to go.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
I would call intertech digital. There are HD channels that you are paying for, but cannot see.

The phone number is 888-948-3474. Dish is telling you something that isn't true.

I'm only trying to help and give you the correct information.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
I realize that and I thank you for the information. Dish Network is the last to let customers know that something is wrong and the last to admit that the problem is on their end and not the consumers end.

We don't watch sports so I've manually gone in and blocked all the sports channels, then when they got rid of MSG they added some of the previously blocked sports channels with HD ones and I had to go in and block them. It's just easier when going through the guide to not have to go through channels we won't watch The Adult channels are also blocked.

This is the package we subscribe to:
America's Top 250
DVR Service
HD 250 Free
Superstation WPIX
Superstation WWOR
Service Plan (15/0)

Aside from the channels we get in HD, and the sports channels, I'd be curious to see what channels we are missing. We don't subscribe to any premium packages and actually a couple of our locals aren't in HD. WNED-17 WNYB-26 WNYO-49 and WPXJ-51/ION are only in SD, but with the Digital Converter box and the Digital/Analog tuner built in to our HDTV.

We get WNED and WNYB and WNYO in HD, but we can't pick up WPXJ no matter where we position the antenna. Also we get WNGS-67-1, -2 -3, (but it doesn't indicate HD but instead all 3 show DT) with the converter box or built in tuner on the HDTV but DN says they aren't going to give us it as a local.

I also subscribe to two A-la-carte channels. WPIX and WWOR but DN says they can't give them to us in HD because they aren't a local station for us but yet, they give us TBS and WGN America in HD.

I put the guide to show only HD Channels.

This is the channels we get in HD. The ones in Boldface are available, but we would have to subscribe to that package) So, what we get are VOD's 1. Then our locals 2, 4, 7, 23, 29. Then 101, 105, 107, 108, 109, 110, 112, 118, 119, 120, 122, 124, 129, 136, 138, 139, 160, 162, 166, 168, 170, 176, 182, 183, 184, 186, 187, 193, 194, 200, 205, 206, 208, 209, 214, 215, 239, 298 340, 361, 368, 371, 373, 374, 385 386, 394

Then 500's PPV's that are in HD.

Then they go into the 5000's and 9000's where our locals and other HD channels are also located. 5180, 5181, 5182, 5183, 5184, 5710, 9416, 9419, 9420, 9421, 9423, 9427 9429, 9431, 9432, 9435 9436, 9437, 9438, 9439, 9440, 9441 9443, 9444, 9446, 9456 9457, 9458, 9460 9481,9462, 9463, 9465, 9469 9470, 9471, 9475, 9476, 9477, 9480, 9481 9484, 9485, 9487, 9498, 9489, 9490, 9491, 9492, 9493, 9499, 9505, 9506, 9507, 9510, 9511, 9513 9531.

I know there are sports channels and adult channels in between these but they are blocked so I didn't list them.

As I mentioned earlier, when I called DN again about the pixelizing and told them that someone else was experiencing the same problem, and when I initially called them they told me no one else was reporting any problems. All of a sudden the next day it was all fixed.

The worst part in all of this is when I call DN I am usually speaking to someone at their home and sometimes it's someone overseas or something so basically when they tell you they need to check the information and ask if they can put you on hold for a couple minutes, all they are doing is looking up the answers on the computer. They're not actually at Dish Network.

It's the same with DirecTV. I've actually heard kids in the background playing video games when I've called. Or I've heard people talking like they were at the dinner table or something.

I'll call Intertech tomorrow.

Thanks again


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
Well, this link will take you to a listing of what programming is on 61.5, 72, and 77, »www.satelliteguys.us/the ··· ndex.php. Go to the link, click subscription list, place a check mark in 61.5, 72, and 77 and click generate.

Compare what you have to what is on the list. I know that AMC HD, Epix1 HD, Epix 2 HD, are only available with 61.5, 72, and 77. There are seven total, If I remember correctly.

Hope this helps. It may be that these channels don't interest you at all, if they don't, no reason to get a new dish.
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Yes it is rather low down here we are 50+.... here in KW weel out side the Nat footprint we look at 56+ deg much outside but also storms pasisng much right over us vs miles away... a 4 min not 20 min interuption. And again the best sig wee get is 70 something percent. 600 miles south of the extreme NA footprint no way we have prime signqal but being so much near the equator makes up for the signal loss and its minutes at worst.
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slras

join:2006-04-10
Buffalo, NY
reply to thewolfman
Thanks once again,

A couple of months ago, DN gave us a free view for a month of MGM-MGM-HD EPIX-1 and EPIX-2 and Retroplex and now they are giving us a free view of EPIX-3 on channel 292.

I did like MGM, especially with the Holidays coming, but really can't afford $10.00 more a month to get 16 more HD channels for this add-on package. As it stands, starting in January, it's going to cost me $80.99 a month before taxes and fees. Right now I'm getting $15.00 a month off for 12 months.

They gave us Free HD For Life, but it really isn't free. I either had to pay a one-time fee of $99.00 or go with paperless billing and auto-pay. (which is only hurting the Postal Service more) Then when I did that, it extended my contract with them for 24 months from the time I added the HD for Life.

Though I didn't have an HD package with DirecTV, I was only paying $67.00 a month and got some of the channels that DN isn't giving us, for free. We were having a lot of problems with DirecTV with equipment resetting itself for no reason, right in the middle of watching a movie or even while DVR'ing something overnight. They kept telling me it was a voltage spike or loose connection and wanted to charge me $75.00 for a service call. They would send us replacement receivers and they would do the same thing. They told me they would be "Brand-New" but when we got them, they had "Refurbished" stickers on them.

One problem was the caller-ID We do have it on our line and it shows up on our phone, but the receivers would detect that a call was coming in and said to call our phone company to have this service activated. When I would call DirecTV they would tell me that the receiver has to be on it's own dedicated jack with a DSL Filter which it was and then they told me to call the phone company to have them check that the caller-ID was working which was a waste of time becuase we already knew it was. We had two receivers that we owned and the caller ID was working fine until they sent us replacement receivers. They tried to tell me that I didn't hook it up right.

I an Electronically/Technically inclined and know what I'm doing, but played stupid with them and explained that I disconnected each wire and cable, one at a time and replaced it in the new receiver the exact way it was on the old one.

They can be so stereotypical when it comes to females, just like mechanics are. I was raised in a family with people in the Electronics field and actually worked as a secretary for a professional sound company with a recording studio and they taught me a lot of things about electricity and electronics.

What gets me is Time-Warner, DN and DirecTV all say they offer over 100 - 200 channels in HD, but they don't tell you that a lot of them are duplicated in the higher numbers. Or you have to subscribe to a higher priced package to get some of the channels.

Then too, with their regular packages, they don't tell you that a lo of the channels are shopping or infomercial channels and they are duplicated on other channels too. So you really aren't getting the number of channels your package states if you don't count the duplicate channels.

Oh well, thanks for the help.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
No problem.


thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
reply to Hayward
said by Hayward:

Yes it is rather low down here we are 50+.... here in KW weel out side the Nat footprint we look at 56+ deg much outside but also storms pasisng much right over us vs miles away... a 4 min not 20 min interuption. And again the best sig wee get is 70 something percent. 600 miles south of the extreme NA footprint no way we have prime signqal but being so much near the equator makes up for the signal loss and its minutes at worst.
Can someone translate this and find the point he might be trying to make??? I don't read gibberish.................
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Hayward
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said by thewolfman:

said by Hayward:

Yes it is rather low, there... down here we are 50+ deg.... here in KW well outside the Nat footprint we look at 56+ deg much outside but also storms pasisng much right over us vs miles away... a 4 min not 20 min interruption. And again the best sig we get is 70 something percent. 600 miles south of the extreme NA footprint no way we have prime signal but being so much near the equator makes up for the signal loss and its minutes at worst.
Can someone translate this and find the point he might be trying to make??? I don't read gibberish.................
Far north is FAR more signal problematic because of low look angle both obstructions and weather, even though in foorprint we are technically outside of.
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thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
The OP and I were talking about TP 13 on sat. 61.5. You live in KW, which is in Florida, so you receive your locals on a different TP. Dish uses spot/conus beams to deliver local channels, which only cover small geographical areas.

How far north I am from you has nothing to do with what the OP was talking about. Your weather has nothing to do with where I live. You have a different spot/conus beam to receive your locals.

Please enlighten me with your next stunning response.
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Yes and in fact the spot locals are the best reception because they are aimed south of CONUS... other wise we are 600 miles south of CONUS.... but again looking so much up (around 56 deg) the weather mostly directly overhead AND OTHER ISSUES DON'T REALLY MATTER HERE AS THEY DO UP NORTH.

Big difference between 75% in the Keys and 75% or less up north maybe looking sideways through a dense storm 30miles away vs just min passng right overhead here.

In fact I have astounded tourists here by saying at a DTV bar and knowing the the conditions (seeing the weather outside...beach bar) signal will be back in 45 sec and it IS nearly to the sec... might even get me a free beer on the bet even with them watching their watch.

Oh it was 50 sec not 45 OK shoot me
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thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
said by Hayward:

In fact I have astounded tourist here by sahying at a DTV bare the signal (seeing the weather outside) will be back in 45 sec and it IS nearly to the sec... might even get me a free beer on the bet
I'm assuming you were at a BAR, not whatever a bare is. I'm sure the tourists were astounded by you, before you even starting talking, but back to the point.

What does your weather have to do with my weather in relation to TP 13 on sat. 61.5??

What does 56 degrees have to do with TP 13 on sat. 61.5?

What does "astounding" tourists have to do with TP 13 on sat. 61.5?

Once again, make a COHERENT point. Can't wait for this..................
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Look where you are what is your elivation look angle is I'd guess around 30 degrees or less. Which again you are looking through crap miles from you not directly overhead like we are... though we are 500+ miles south of CONUS and you technically aren't and in the footprint. And also why MIA spot beam is last thing to go because they are actually aimed at us still 150+ miles away at lower power where as CONUS is still 500 mi north.

And that is offset dish angle so here were are probably in REALITY near 80 deg true look

And again 61.5 is out over the Atlantic not YOU. Even NYC is 73 deg... so 12 deg farther out in the ocean at a low look angle. More like 15 deg from you.

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Hayward
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said by thewolfman:

I'm assuming you were at a BAR, not whatever a bare is. I'm sure the tourists were astounded by you, before you even starting talking, but back to the point.

What does your weather have to do with my weather in relation to TP 13 on sat. 61.5??

What does 56 degrees have to do with TP 13 on sat. 61.5?
Oh nothing to say have to pick up on a one letter spelling error corrected before you posted....

As to the rest of the stupid questions guessing you flunked HS physics didn't you (at least i got a C) and the full moon is just weird unpredictable oddity huh?.
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thewolfman

join:2003-04-03
Niagara Falls, NY
reply to Hayward
It looks like you failed reading comprehension and writing, as I previously posted, my elevation is 37 degrees.

I think, although I don't speak gibberish, that you are trying to say that the satellite is closer to you, therefore; you look at a higher angle. Again, you are missing my point.

The original poster asked why the locals for Western New York were receiving low signal strength, and, why the local channels were pixelizing and losing audio. These two events were not related. Transponder 13 on sat. 61.5 has moved, either by plan from dish or a problem with the satellite itself.

You receive your locals from this spotbeam, »sites.google.com/site/sa ··· 09-miami

Do you really think that the weather in your area has anything to do with what I've just explained??

That is my point, take it or not, like it or not. I'm out, I cannot reason with the insane, have fun and go nuts with as many responses as you like.
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