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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Sprint switches to LTE Its obvious at this point Clearwire will switch to LTE, and Sprint's future will be an MVNO on Clearwire 
On the otherhand, Sprint might take its spectrum (Xohm) out of the Clearwire partnership make that its LTE network. When users demand roaming/rural/suburban/highway coverage from Sprint, Sprint will HAVE to use whatever its roaming companies (ATT/Verizon) use. No buts, ifs or whats. CDMA/EVDO has atleast 5 if not 10 years left on it, so Sprint can't use 1900 for LTE any time soon. | |
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| here we go again with you  . You have no proof of this nor is there any proof that Clear will actually move to LTE. They were only testing the technology. And they can build out the LTE network and use it for roaming $$$$ from other carriers- TMO, VZ, ATT.
And Sprint won't take anything from Clear. They own 51% of that company and can do what they want with Clear with no problems. but they won't shoot their right foot by pulling spectrum from Clear- hell they've issued a sale for some of it.
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said by patcat88:Its obvious at this point Clearwire will switch to LTE, and Sprint's future will be an MVNO on Clearwire Not necessarily. At this point, Clearwire still has enough spectrum to run both WiMAX and LTE.
On the otherhand, Sprint might take its spectrum (Xohm) out of the Clearwire partnership make that its LTE network. When users demand roaming/rural/suburban/highway coverage from Sprint, Sprint will HAVE to use whatever its roaming companies (ATT/Verizon) use. At this point, I don't know how easy it would be for Sprint to just "take" that spectrum back...As far as roaming, Verizon has stated that they'll operate their CDMA network until at least 2018-2020 so Sprint isn't exactly pressed for time on that end.
No buts, ifs or whats. CDMA/EVDO has atleast 5 if not 10 years left on it, so Sprint can't use 1900 for LTE any time soon.
Again, not necessarily. For one, they have 10MHz of spectrum on the PCS (1900) G band when they finish rebanding their SMR spectrum. Speaking of which, who's to say that they won't start migrating iDEN users off of that spectrum and start using it for LTE? Bottom line is that they do have options available to them if and when the need arises. | |
patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:And Sprint won't take anything from Clear. They own 51% of that company and can do what they want with Clear with no problems. but they won't shoot their right foot by pulling spectrum from Clear- hell they've issued a sale for some of it. If the cable companies get too aggressive with Sprint, Sprint might have to break off from Clear and go their own path, and Clear will just become a competitor to Sprint. MVNOs relationships never turn out good. The network owner will get jealous and start to compete against the MVNO until the MVNO gives up and hands over the profit markup to the network owner. MVNOs innovate, and the parent just copies then cranks up the wholesale rate until the MVNO dies. Firefly phone for kids got copied by AT&T/VZ not too long after. Media content branded MVNOs all wind up bankrupt/closed and as apps on infrastructure carriers mysteriously. Look at Virgin Mobile and Helio. Verizon used to have a no prepaid policy, now they have alot of prepaid plans. Ampd was killed by Verizon. Sprint used to be a franchise network, it has since bought out or sued into the ground all its franchise holders. TracFone has gave itself insurance by selling both AT&T GSM and Verizon CDMA, so the neither can blackmail TracFone out of the market. All the prepaid mobile companies that have survived (except America Movil) own infrastructure, IE, Pocket, MetroPCS, Cricket. MVNOs as independent companies have no future. Either an MVNO is branded AND BUNDLED through a parent, or its a fake brand of the network owner (Boost, Jump, VM, Rover, etc).
Sprint owns 51% (although that doesn't mean much if your appointed directors mutiny) and can dissolve the partnership, which would prevent the cable companies or McCraw or the mutual funds from trying to get rid of Sprint. Every partner you kill means more profit for you. | |
patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to DarnellP
said by DarnellP:Again, not necessarily. For one, they have 10MHz of spectrum on the PCS (1900) G band when they finish rebanding their SMR spectrum. Speaking of which, who's to say that they won't start migrating iDEN users off of that spectrum and start using it for LTE? Bottom line is that they do have options available to them if and when the need arises. The question is, what handsets will be available? If no phone manufacturer in asia wants to make a 1 carrier phone, the carrier will pay dearly for those custom handsets, and the customers won't come if the competitor has a cheaper handset/aircard. What if nobody makes an LTE chipset for that band? Will the carrier really pay Qualcomm or Infineon to make a custom chipset? Exotic wireless bands usually wind up being used for P2P backhaul or sold off or graveyarded (thanks FCC).
No PCS phones come with G band today. PCS G is as exotic as SMR. SMR band is really walkie talkies/taxi dispatch bands that were duct taped together to form a cell network by Nextel in the late 1980s/early 1990s in a very inventive way. The whole rebanding thing stems from that. | |
2 edits | said by patcat88:The question is, what handsets will be available? If no phone manufacturer in asia wants to make a 1 carrier phone, the carrier will pay dearly for those custom handsets, and the customers won't come if the competitor has a cheaper handset/aircard. What if nobody makes an LTE chipset for that band? Will the carrier really pay Qualcomm or Infineon to make a custom chipset? Exotic wireless bands usually wind up being used for P2P backhaul or sold off or graveyarded (thanks FCC). Hard to say, but its not stopping KDDI from deploying LTE on oddball 1.5GHz spectrum in Japan.
No PCS phones come with G band today. PCS G is as exotic as SMR. SMR band is really walkie talkies/taxi dispatch bands that were duct taped together to form a cell network by Nextel in the late 1980s/early 1990s in a very inventive way. The whole rebanding thing stems from that.
no phones today come with support for LTE. Does that mean it will never happen? No, of course not. Hardware is manufactured as it is needed. When there is a need for G band support, then it will be built. Moreover, there's nothing "exotic" about PCS G band or SMR spectrum.
ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/30102008/30/link-f-cnw-new-wireless-entrant-bmv-holdings-names-former-bell.html
Qualcomm Inc., the industry-leading chipset maker for handheld phones, has incorporated support for the PCS G Band spectrum in its standard chipsets for leading U.S. carriers. This technology can be readily applied to handsets in the Canadian market. "Qualcomm's comprehensive product portfolio includes innovative products that support nearly every frequency band in the world allocated for cellular data services," said Steve Brown, Senior Director of Product Management for Qualcomm CDMA Technologies. "G Band spectrum represents exciting new opportunities for consumer wireless services. Qualcomm is happy to support BMV's efforts to help commercialize devices operating in these frequencies."
 something tells me it won't be a problem.... As far as the SMR spectrum, after rebanding, they will have 14MHz of contiguous spectrum that is in the middle of or adjacent to the frequencies that Europe will be using for 4G. Spectrum-wise, I just don't think they're in as precarious a position as you seem to be trying to make it appear. | |
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