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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Pretty good

Clear has a whopping 100-150 MHz of spectrum at its disposal, so 20x20 (40 MHz total) LTE would be doable. Compare this to Verizon or AT&T, which AFAIk don't have enough contiguous spectrum to do 20x20 LTE and you get Clear coming out on top speed-wise.

Then again, I can get that kind of throughput on gear that you can deploy right now. The gear just happens to be a bit larger (»ubnt.com) than a phone.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Iowa
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I wanna see how this company is gonna mature. While its technology, network infrastructure is advanced, its billing, customer service, PR, web application have to mature.

And its hard to rely on only 4g without fallback to 3g. You cannot use it on commuter train. It constantly drops. Either spotty coverage, or poor hand-off between towers.


hottboiinnc
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why are people quick to knock the company and its network? you do realize that Rome wasn't built over night right? They have a LOT to still do as far as putting up more towers and keep going. But yet; everyone has something to bitch about (not targeting you directly) regardless of what Clear is able to do or does.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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reply to chgo_man99
Agreed. I was in San Antonio yesterday and 4G coverage was spotty despite having been around for a year or so...


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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reply to hottboiinnc
Have you used Clear? Are they in your area? If not, you can't say yea or nay about the quality of their network.

I've tested Clear's network out in a few areas. The service may be fast at times, with download speeds reaching 8 Mbps, but I also saw speeds comparable to EvDO elsewhere, and at times I couldn't get service at all despite being in Clear's coverage area.


hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
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and yes. Clear is in Cleveland but not official yet. I have a 4g/3g card from Sprint and 4g works great!

The part about the network is people bitch about what is wrong with it and it's not the fact of anything being wrong with it except the towers are running out of backhaul bandwidth and the towers are limited in areas. Any company would have that problem; just not Clear. But people don't seem to get that; instead its just easy to bitch about them and give them neg press; which BBR/DSLR seems to do to anyone except VZW, T and Google. Anyone else Karl hates with a passion when he types his blog entries.

And just because someone has an issue in NC doesn't mean that someone else is going to have the same problem in Cali or even Washington or NYC. The fact is the network is different in every area in terms of the backhaul and such. nobody bothers to listen though. It's all about the bitching about how half ass their network is and how they should scrap Wimax and move to LTE just because T and VZ are doing it. Hell T isn't even there yet and people are already worshiping them.
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
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reply to iansltx
problem with any carrier network that is wireless.


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Iowa

reply to hottboiinnc
People b**ch even worse about ATT and I don't remember seeing you there defending it. How do you know if Clear got as big as ATT Mobility wouldn't be more expensive and people still complained from inconsistent service in some areas?


chgo_man99

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reply to hottboiinnc
And you live in Cleveland, OH. Do you ever ride commuter train there to the city from suburbs? Clear may be perfect for single hotspot in the city, in cafe, beach, restaurant especially where there is no wi-fi or it is overpriced. But try to use it in the moving vehicle. Spend 1 hour or so on commute and see if you can even reconnect once the connection drops and can't view any website. EDGE/HSPA doesn't suffer from this.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to hottboiinnc
My Sprint aircard works just fine. My Sprint phone on 3G works just fine. Friends' AT&T and Verizon phones work just fine. Granted, we're talking about 3G that's at least 600MHz lower-frequency than Clear WiMAX but the fact remains that it works less well than the competition has for years.


questionable

join:2005-10-18
Phoenix, AZ

reply to chgo_man99
LOL no one uses the RTV it's to scary


chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Iowa

I don't know what are you talking about.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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reply to hottboiinnc

said by hottboiinnc:

and yes. Clear is in Cleveland but not official yet. I have a 4g/3g card from Sprint and 4g works great!

The part about the network is people bitch about what is wrong with it and it's not the fact of anything being wrong with it except the towers are running out of backhaul bandwidth and the towers are limited in areas. Any company would have that problem; just not Clear. But people don't seem to get that; instead its just easy to bitch about them and give them neg press; which BBR/DSLR seems to do to anyone except VZW, T and Google. Anyone else Karl hates with a passion when he types his blog entries.

And just because someone has an issue in NC doesn't mean that someone else is going to have the same problem in Cali or even Washington or NYC. The fact is the network is different in every area in terms of the backhaul and such. nobody bothers to listen though. It's all about the bitching about how half ass their network is and how they should scrap Wimax and move to LTE just because T and VZ are doing it. Hell T isn't even there yet and people are already worshiping them.
Cry more.

squison

join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA
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reply to hottboiinnc
From a end-user perspective it doesn't matter if it's the tower, the backhaul or the network. The problem is the company over-promised a level of service to too many subscribers and are reluctant or slow to spend money/time on more towers, bigger backhaul pipes, or increased network capacity. Meanwhile, customers see drops in service, complain about the company/network, and head for the competition.

If they want to avoid customer backlash like this, they just need to be clear about what service they are offering up front (if you cap, tell us -- don't hide it in vague terms in the AUP) and only offer a level of service they can actually provide.



jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA

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reply to chgo_man99
I've noticed a similar issue with Sprint's 4G. The reception is very finicky, and if I place my coffee in the wrong spot, the signal drops.

However, my office is located just north of the main Dulles runway 19L/1R, and from this static location I am able to stream 256-320 kbps MOG music files or use my Slingmedia player to watch TV at all hours of the day/night with seemingly no drop in performance.

I've streamed my Slingbox content during the Tour de France from 6 AM to noon, had the British Open golf tournament showing from the first tee-off until the sun went down, caught a few weekday college football games along with Monday Night Football games, and even the baseball playoff games, like the Yankees - Rangers game that I am watching right now. Works perfectly without any problems.

I can't imagine that I'm being throttled, as I would think the picture quality would go to hell.

I have 3G to fall back on when traveling about, and I only fire up the 4G radio when I know the signal is good and I plan on using an app that would take advantage of the increased performance or need to transfer a large file that can't wait.

Between the choice of a Starbuck's WiFi or 4G, if both are available, I'd feel more confident that I would get much better performance with the 4G, especially if there are more than a couple of people using the WiFi.

All that said, the 4G is not ready for mobile use. Just driving around with 4G enabled, I can see the signal drop from maximum to nothing and back again several times in a simple 5-6 mile trip to grab a bite to eat. It's use is better suited to WiFi type activities, and not as much for what 3G does.


chgo_man99

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said by jmn1207:

Between the choice of a Starbuck's WiFi or 4G, if both are available, I'd feel more confident that I would get much better performance with the 4G, especially if there are more than a couple of people using the WiFi.

That depends where you use it. If you use it at university's library with smart networking design, even if many people connect it won't suffer congestion. Worse it comes to stores or coffee shops and especially public libraries which have poorly designed wi-fi networks. Some of them even use only linksys consumer grade crap and for backhaul use minimal adsl tier available!!!

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