 PhilRojo SolPremium
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Re: Will AT&T now get serious about bundling discounts? If people switch to Verizon for the iPhone, that means less traffic congestion for me.  |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:3 | said by Phil:If people switch to Verizon for the iPhone, that means less traffic congestion for me. Exactly. And I can assure everyone that VZW's network is not prepared for the influx of iPhones that will hammer their network.
Call it a growing pain..
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1 edit | said by Rob:said by Phil:If people switch to Verizon for the iPhone, that means less traffic congestion for me. Exactly. And I can assure everyone that VZW's network is not prepared for the influx of iPhones that will hammer their network. Call it a growing pain.. Do you work for Verizon in an engineering capacity? |
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RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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kudos:3 | said by Jim Kirk:said by Rob:said by Phil:If people switch to Verizon for the iPhone, that means less traffic congestion for me. Exactly. And I can assure everyone that VZW's network is not prepared for the influx of iPhones that will hammer their network. Call it a growing pain.. Do you work for Verizon? One doesn't need to work for VZW to know that their network isn't prepared to handle the iPhone.
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| said by Rob:One doesn't need to work for VZW to know that their network isn't prepared to handle the iPhone. So... you can't "assure" anything. |
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RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:3 | said by Jim Kirk:said by Rob:One doesn't need to work for VZW to know that their network isn't prepared to handle the iPhone. So... you can't "assure" anything. Just because I don't work there doesn't mean I don't know people who do.
But.. let's just wait and see.
They have a solid network. But it's seen nothing yet.
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| said by Rob:said by Jim Kirk:said by Rob:One doesn't need to work for VZW to know that their network isn't prepared to handle the iPhone. So... you can't "assure" anything. Just because I don't work there doesn't mean I don't know people who do. But.. let's just wait and see. They have a solid network. But it's seen nothing yet. Exactly, I think the same thing would happen to VZ that happened to AT&T unless VZ knew this was coming and beefed it up substantially which I doubt.
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Napa, CA
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| said by ptrowski:Exactly, I think the same thing would happen to VZ that happened to AT&T unless VZ knew this was coming and beefed it up substantially which I doubt. »news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20012011-266.html
"...Verizon Wireless smartphone customers consume on average about 421 megabytes per month. Meanwhile, AT&T iPhone users consume roughly 25 percent less data, or about 338 megabytes per month."
It appears Verizon already has more data traffic than AT&T and they still don't have the issues AT&T does. This is what happens when a company focuses on network infrastructure with its profits. |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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| said by Pope:said by ptrowski:Exactly, I think the same thing would happen to VZ that happened to AT&T unless VZ knew this was coming and beefed it up substantially which I doubt. » news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20012011-266.html"...Verizon Wireless smartphone customers consume on average about 421 megabytes per month. Meanwhile, AT&T iPhone users consume roughly 25 percent less data, or about 338 megabytes per month." It appears Verizon already has more data traffic than AT&T and they still don't have the issues AT&T does. This is what happens when a company focuses on network infrastructure with its profits. That's great and all, but when you will have a HUGE surge of new users that doesn't matter.
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said by Rob:One doesn't need to work for VZW to know that their network isn't prepared to handle the iPhone. The large number of android phones don't seem to be having much of an effect.
It's not just the 3G speeds that push people to VZW, it's the lack of coverage. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to ptrowski
I seriously doubt VZW will see a huge surge in "new" customers. No doubt, there will be consumers that migrate from AT&T to Verizon Wireless, but I don't believe the numbers will be as grand as some believe...at least not nearly as much of a surge that AT&T experience when initially offering the iPhone. |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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kudos:4 | I am not sure. There have been quite a few mentions of people that would switch in a heartbeat should it come out, so I think it would be more than you may expect.
Only time will tell I guess. |
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openbox9Premium
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kudos:2 | And I say I will work out more, drink less, and eat healthier all of the time. Doesn't make it a reality 
Yes time will tell. |
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| said by openbox9:And I say I will work out more, drink less, and eat healthier all of the time. Doesn't make it a reality Yes time will tell. Wow, you have the same aspirations as I do! 
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i can as a current verizon customer and the shoddy service and ongoing issue that will not be addressed. i can assure you verizon network is not ready for this in texas.
i have had phone monitored for congestion and dropped signals for a 3 month period and spoke directly with engineers and tech support over these issues..
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Oh please! Like Verizon doesn't have Data Hungry Android phones and Blackberries on it's network. The Iphone doesn't use more or less data as any other smart phone. AT&T is just a cheap ass and doesn't keep up its network. |
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RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:3 | said by openupshop:Oh please! Like Verizon doesn't have Data Hungry Android phones and Blackberries on it's network. The Iphone doesn't use more or less data as any other smart phone. AT&T is just a cheap ass and doesn't keep up its network. It's not about that. It's about the possibility of millions of iPhones being added to VZW's network at the same time. Android and Blackberries are nothing compared to the iPhone.
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said by Rob:said by Phil:If people switch to Verizon for the iPhone, that means less traffic congestion for me. Exactly. And I can assure everyone that VZW's network is not prepared for the influx of iPhones that will hammer their network. Call it a growing pain... I agree with the less traffic part. Defections from AT&T would benefit those who stay behind as well as those who defect as the later will be relieving the stress off the network, leaving more bandwidth for the former.
However, I do agree with the article as well. Those who already got iPhone 4 won't be defecting to Verizon as much as they are probably just 4-5 months into their 2-year contracts and unless they hate the phone and/or AT&T that much that they would be willing to pay up whatever is left of their ETF, they are not going anywhere until 2012. And if the above was the case, they should have returned the phone within 30 days and gotten out of the contract altogether.
AT&T could see some defections starting next summer, which would be 3GS users whose contracts would be coming to an end right about then and who are not happy with AT&T.
The only ones jumping all over Verizon iPhone would be those who just love Verizon and were not willing to budge and switch to AT&T earlier, no matter how much they might have loved the iPhone. However, most of these are probably already Verizon customers, so the only thing Verizon would get out of them is tie them into another 2-year contract.
About Verizon's network not being ready to handle the impending iPhone traffic, I don't think it will be as bad as AT&T. After all, they have already been selling some Android devices that are just as data-hungry as iPhones for quite some time and so far no major complaints from customers.
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You think people are gonna flock that fast to Verizon LMAO...it will take a while. I don't think they are gonna get millions in a couple or weeks. People are happy with Android and much more happy that we can root |
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said by Rob:said by openupshop:Oh please! Like Verizon doesn't have Data Hungry Android phones and Blackberries on it's network. The Iphone doesn't use more or less data as any other smart phone. AT&T is just a cheap ass and doesn't keep up its network. It's not about that. It's about the possibility of millions of iPhones being added to VZW's network at the same time. Android and Blackberries are nothing compared to the iPhone. You've got that backwards. |
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