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fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to chlen

Re: I am a cord cutter.

What you describe (apart from Hulu) is theft of service. Yes, Time Warner really should put a trap on your line but it still doesn't make what you're doing any less illegal. Btw cablevision used the same argument to encrypt local signals in the Bronx. OTA with an antenna is free and legal.

Penny3000

join:2003-11-24
Oak Ridge, TN

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Allow me to correct you, it's not theft. Unless a cable company has gone all digital in the area, the signal is analog. Usually the first 13-16 channels are part of the basic tier. The basic tier needs to be open because the channel the cable company provides for internet service resides in this tier. So yes, you can get OTA channels for free if you connect your cable line.

And to go one step further, if you really want to take advantage of what you are paying for, you can hook up the cable line to your tv and get HD local channels in QAM.

Why do you think that internet only is about the same price as HSI with Basic?

Bobcat79
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join:2001-02-04
That may be true for your cable company, but it's not true for mine.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to Penny3000
said by Penny3000:

Allow me to correct you, it's not theft. Unless a cable company has gone all digital in the area, the signal is analog. Usually the first 13-16 channels are part of the basic tier. The basic tier needs to be open because the channel the cable company provides for internet service resides in this tier.
Wrong. My cable company has the HSI channels up in the high 70s. There is no one standard. It's all over the map actually but they usually prefer higher frequencies due to noise.

So yes, you can get OTA channels for free if you connect your cable line.
Cable companies usually put a trap on the line to block out TV if you're a HSI only sub. They may have forgotten to put one in your case, but just as if someone leaves their keys in their car, it doesn't give you the right to jump in and drive off.

And to go one step further, if you really want to take advantage of what you are paying for, you can hook up the cable line to your tv and get HD local channels in QAM.
It's still theft. Cablevision used the argument that people were doing this to get an FCC waiver to encrypt local HD channels in the Bronx.

Why do you think that internet only is about the same price as HSI with Basic?
It isn't. One key difference in fact is that you don't pay the franchise tax if you have HSI only. The franchise fee is charged as a portion of basic video service.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
reply to Penny3000
said by Penny3000:

Allow me to correct you, it's not theft. Unless a cable company has gone all digital in the area, the signal is analog. Usually the first 13-16 channels are part of the basic tier. The basic tier needs to be open because the channel the cable company provides for internet service resides in this tier. So yes, you can get OTA channels for free if you connect your cable line.

And to go one step further, if you really want to take advantage of what you are paying for, you can hook up the cable line to your tv and get HD local channels in QAM.

Why do you think that internet only is about the same price as HSI with Basic?
Because they haven't figured out how to know you're receiving the video portion.
from the FWIW dept: cox is using channel 87 for HSI in this area which would entail paying for expanded basic @ ~$50/mo. hardly anywhere near free.
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chlen
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Saratoga, NY
reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:

What you describe (apart from Hulu) is theft of service. Yes, Time Warner really should put a trap on your line but it still doesn't make what you're doing any less illegal. Btw cablevision used the same argument to encrypt local signals in the Bronx. OTA with an antenna is free and legal.
No, it is not theft, if you have TW internet around here you get OTA channels. Some times in certain areas you can get up to channel 77 because they forget to block when activating RR. That is theft. The idea to hook up my cable line to the TV instead of buying an antenna was bestowed upon my by the TW tech that set up my service.
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