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Duramax08
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Cool

way to hit that 5 gig cap faster (for the heavy users).



Gbcue
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At least there's no overages like with the "balding, middle aged man" network.
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ptrowski
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So what good is dial-up speeds on that fancy new phone?



Gbcue
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said by ptrowski:

So what good is dial-up speeds on that fancy new phone?
I don't know about you but I'm hitting 8/1.5.
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ptrowski
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Beyond your 5GB cap?



Gbcue
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said by ptrowski:

Beyond your 5GB cap?
Never even gotten close to it.
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ptrowski
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Well then you would not get throttled back to the dial up speeds then.



Gbcue
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said by ptrowski:

Well then you would not get throttled back to the dial up speeds then.
Still, I'd rather have DU speeds than pay $$$ for data overages...
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ptrowski
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Not me. At that point the whole "4G" sell goes right out the window.



Duramax08
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said by ptrowski:

Not me. At that point the whole "4G" sell goes right out the window.
Bingo.


maartena
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reply to Gbcue

Yeah but how many "4G" phones are sharing that bandwidth? I bet 98% of T-Mobile customers have a phone that can't even talk to this "4G" network. Wait till the market share of those phones have increased to 20% in a year or so
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en102
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Valencia, CA
reply to Gbcue

I don't have a 5GB cap on my iPhone.


iansltx

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reply to maartena

At that point TMo will have 42 Mbps HSPA+ deployed, so speeds will be at last what they are now.



ptrowski
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reply to en102

said by en102:

I don't have a 5GB cap on my iPhone.
Me neither.


ztmike
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reply to ptrowski

said by ptrowski:

Not me. At that point the whole "4G" sell goes right out the window.
Every wireless carrier has a cap, hidden or not, and Verizon has one to they just don't disclose it.


ztmike
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said by en102:

I don't have a 5GB cap on my iPhone.
Yea gee..that grandfathered plan sure does help, what about all those new users that HAVE to buy into the 2GB/month cap with $10 1GB overages? Can you say RIPOFF?


ArrayList
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reply to Duramax08

i have no cap on t-mobile


fiberguy
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said by ArrayList:

i have no cap on t-mobile
Yes you do.


cdru
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said by fiberguy:

said by ArrayList:

i have no cap on t-mobile
Yes you do.
It all depends on how "cap" is defined.

thatissick

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Atlanta, GA

1 recommendation

I'd rather take slowed down dial up speeds instead of being charged $10/1GB overage any day.



ptrowski
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Ripoff. I won't deny that as almost EVERY data plan from a carrier is a ripoff.



tiger72
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said by maartena:

Yeah but how many "4G" phones are sharing that bandwidth? I bet 98% of T-Mobile customers have a phone that can't even talk to this "4G" network. Wait till the market share of those phones have increased to 20% in a year or so
considering most of their phones are 3g (UMTS) capable, your made up statistic is utterly false.
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tiger72
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reply to ptrowski

said by ptrowski:

Not me. At that point the whole "4G" sell goes right out the window.
Man, you must really travel a lot.


ptrowski
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Why, because being throttled to dialup speeds on the phone that is supposedly 4G is silly?



ArrayList
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reply to fiberguy

read my contract. no mention of this Download quota or soft cap you folks ever talk about.

heres what i understand your "soft cap" to be.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_···ad_quota



ArrayList
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reply to thatissick

same here. plus 5GB is a lot of data for a mobile device. I don't hit 1gb a month as it is so wtf ever



ztmike
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reply to ptrowski

said by ptrowski:

Ripoff. I won't deny that as almost EVERY data plan from a carrier is a ripoff.
At&t takes the prize for it to.

fiberguy
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reply to cdru

said by cdru:

said by fiberguy:

said by ArrayList:

i have no cap on t-mobile
Yes you do.
It all depends on how "cap" is defined.
EXACTLY! .. which was my point.

fiberguy
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reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

same here. plus 5GB is a lot of data for a mobile device. I don't hit 1gb a month as it is so wtf ever
...and I'll agree with you on this. Still, I don't even agree with a 5gb cap throttling speeds either - all the time. I DO think that when people hit what is considered their "cap" that the system would put you first in line to slow ya down (the user that is) and let those that haven't gotten their 'fair use' (as they call it) out of their service.

But, if the service can handle a user, even after 5gb per month, the system should let the MBs flow.

I look at it as a least-case scenario. It's NOT about consumption base unless it's sold as such. If ALL users were using, say, 50mb in a month, but 1 user of the entire base used 5gb, why slow them down at all? Now, this will never be the case, but it should be modeled this way if they're being honest.

It can't be sold as unlimited, even soft-capped, if it's about "network management" because "network management" tools would be smart enough to let even a heavy user through when the network could handle it. Besides, what if that "heavy user" is using the net ALWAYS between 12 midnight and 5am? .. when no one is really using it...?

So yea.. to throttle people even at 5gbs IS setting a "limit".. no matter how it's sliced. Still, however, I DO see a difference in tethering and mobile device use and I believe that carriers NEED to, right now at least, control use based on the device connected. Tethering is still where I'm SURE the mobile internet carriers are no where NEAR ready to handle a flood of users.

fiberguy
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reply to ArrayList

Your "contract"...? Which one? The one you signed the say you signed up? ... or the one that's been most likely updated 20 million times since you got service?

I'll make it easier for you anyway... doesn't matter. There could be NO mention of a cap at all, anywhere, and you'd still have a cap. T-Mo will just cap the service.. it will take someone with more money than them to bring it up in a legal matter.. or a class action.. something will get done, they'll pay out some money (far less than what they made) .. they'll then change the rules, make it clear-er for you, and boom.. you have a cap, in writing.

Make sense now?

and yes, tmo throttles at 5gb.. i do believe that someone here even posted the link to the text before here on BBR.