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pende_tim
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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ
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Need To Increase Selection

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?
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The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.


Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Downers Grove, IL
kudos:2
They would if they could. They're unfortunately at the mercy of the studios on what they can offer.


FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to pende_tim
said by pende_tim:

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?

You are right. But they signed deals with the content providers that limits their streaming options.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:2
reply to pende_tim
said by pende_tim:

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?

The studios are not going to cannibalize their DVD sales.


HappyAnarchy

@iauq.com
Their not going to cannabalize their DVD sales either way. They are just paranoid.


Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
reply to FFH5
I don' think the deals they recently signed limits their streaming selection. Actually, it gives them more titles to stream. They are at the mercy of the content providers as to what gets streamed. While they can rent out DVDs without seeking the approval of any studio, they can't rip those DVDs and make them available online for streaming without first signing some sort of agreement. (Not unless they want to get sued out of existence.)
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-Jason Levine

Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
Aptos, CA
reply to pende_tim
No kidding.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:2
reply to HappyAnarchy
said by HappyAnarchy :

Their not going to cannabalize their DVD sales either way. They are just paranoid.

It's their content. They have every right to be paranoid.

Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
Aptos, CA
reply to Phil
Or they can just start a secret illegal business overseas of selling pirated content and stream 100% of it using a similar platform with a similar breadth of availability as Netflix has DVDs, and the main parent company can just complain "oh our business sucks ... look at that competitor .... if only you hollywood execs would let us sell all our movies as stream subscriptions without all your silly restrictions, none of this would be happening .... at least not as much of it", randomize the availability a bit so it's not so obviously Netflix running the show of the secret company (later investigations find out "they actually rented their DVDs from Netflix! that's why the offerings are so similar!"), and then if played right, Hollywood would fold, and suddenly the secret company would have more and more server problems, and the consumers would naturally select Netflix as their savior, especially once Netflix's selection is restored to its proper level. If Netflix is savvy, they can have their secret company stream pirated content of a few more movies that they currently don't even have in DVD stock, and get an even wider array of products to sell with this deal.

Shrewd, but it'd save the company.

Not sure if it's the best long-term goal, but it wouldn't hurt anybody except maybe a few gross old fats in South California and West Middle NYC. Help clear out some of their cruft, indeed.

It's not going to happen, though, since it's just so damned illicit. I wouldn't recommend it anyway.


wwdubbia

join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:

said by pende_tim:

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?

The studios are not going to cannibalize their DVD sales.

that's what the music industry said about iTunes just a few short years ago. If the studios don't see streaming as THE next platform at this piont, they deserve what they get.

The overhead costs are so much lower with streaming.. no production costs, no postage, no brick and mortar, etc. Seems like a no brainer.


fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:2
said by wwdubbia:

said by fifty nine:

said by pende_tim:

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?

The studios are not going to cannibalize their DVD sales.

that's what the music industry said about iTunes just a few short years ago. If the studios don't see streaming as THE next platform at this piont, they deserve what they get.

The overhead costs are so much lower with streaming.. no production costs, no postage, no brick and mortar, etc. Seems like a no brainer.

Netflix doesn't sell individual licenses to individual movies or songs. iTunes does.

An unlimited subscription at $8/month shared among all of the studios and netflix taking its cut can't bring in the same revenue as one or more DVD purchases at $10-$15 per month.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
said by fifty nine:

An unlimited subscription at $8/month shared among all of the studios and netflix taking its cut can't bring in the same revenue as one or more DVD purchases at $10-$15 per month.

Yep. Maybe if Netflix charged $20 a month and all of that extra $12 went to the studios they MIGHT bite. Of course Netflix would lose a lot of subscribers if they did that.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to wwdubbia
said by wwdubbia:

said by fifty nine:

said by pende_tim:

If their goal is to go to streaming only, they need to make everything on DVD available as a streaming offering.
Now the streaming is only, what, 10% of the DVD offerings?

The studios are not going to cannibalize their DVD sales.

that's what the music industry said about iTunes just a few short years ago. If the studios don't see streaming as THE next platform at this piont, they deserve what they get.

The overhead costs are so much lower with streaming.. no production costs, no postage, no brick and mortar, etc. Seems like a no brainer.

Because a sizable potrion of the country either

A) Doesn't have access to anything other than dial-up

B) Only has access to under 3 Mbps broadband which is useless for streaming

C) Doesn't want intertnet even if they have access to it.

D) Doesn't want 3Mbps or more speed internet even if they have access to it. They are happy with their 768 kbps DSL.

E) Prefers using actual phsycial media.

You ingore A thru E and that's at least half the country.

Madtown
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join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
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·Comcast
said by 88615298:

B) Only has access to under 3 Mbps broadband which is useless for streaming

I get about 2.70mbps download speed on my connection and I can stream movies from Netflix just fine.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
said by Madtown:

said by 88615298:

B) Only has access to under 3 Mbps broadband which is useless for streaming

I get about 2.70mbps download speed on my connection and I can stream movies from Netflix just fine.

I doubt a family of 4 with multiple internet connected devices sharing that connection you would stream Netflix just fine. And you certainly can't stream HD just fine since the bitrate is as high as 3.8 Mbps.


aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to 88615298
said by 88615298:

Because a sizable potrion of the country either

A) Doesn't have access to anything other than dial-up

B) Only has access to under 3 Mbps broadband which is useless for streaming

C..............

Most people don't watch HD. 3Mb/s is more than enough for SD. My girlfriend only has a 1.2Mb/s DSL connection. SD streams from Netflix with no issues. Although with the slow speed she only gets access to the three lower bitrates. But it typically streams the SD at the 1Mb/s bitrate which looks fine for SD.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
said by aaronwt:

said by 88615298:

Because a sizable potrion of the country either

A) Doesn't have access to anything other than dial-up

B) Only has access to under 3 Mbps broadband which is useless for streaming

C..............

Most people don't watch HD. 3Mb/s is more than enough for SD. My girlfriend only has a 1.2Mb/s DSL connection. SD streams from Netflix with no issues. Although with the slow speed she only gets access to the three lower bitrates. But it typically streams the SD at the 1Mb/s bitrate which looks fine for SD.

Yes why watch HD when you spend hundreds maybe over $1000 for a HDTV.


Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA

1 recommendation

First of all, not everyone has a HDTV. I have SDTV's in my house and don't plan on buying a HDTV until my SDTV's break. So calling streaming useless because it doesn't deliver HDTV isn't applicable to everyone.

Secondly, most of Netflix's rentals are DVD, not Blu-Ray. So if you are getting DVD quality from streaming, you're not losing anything quality-wise.

Finally, even if there's a drop in quality there's a convenience factor involved. Sure, you might not be getting HDTV picture quality, but you're getting the movie the instant you want to see it instead of having to wait for the mail delivery or having to drive to the store to rent a copy. Convenience won't trump picture quality for all folks but it does for many people.
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-Jason Levine


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
said by Jason Levine:

First of all, not everyone has a HDTV.

65% do

I have SDTV's in my house and don't plan on buying a HDTV until my SDTV's break. So calling streaming useless because it doesn't deliver HDTV isn't applicable to everyone.

I never said that. Quote me.

Secondly, most of Netflix's rentals are DVD, not Blu-Ray. So if you are getting DVD quality from streaming, you're not losing anything quality-wise.

What does one have to do wit the other? I don't rent DVDs. I hate to tell you but SD quality in a stream does not equate to DVD quality anyways. SD stream has 1.5 Mbps bitrate, DVD is 8 Mbps. HUGE difference.

Finally, even if there's a drop in quality there's a convenience factor involved. Sure, you might not be getting HDTV picture quality, but you're getting the movie the instant you want to see it instead of having to wait for the mail delivery or having to drive to the store to rent a copy. Convenience won't trump picture quality for all folks but it does for many people.

Once again has NOTHING to do with my post.