|reply to FFH |
Re: UBP can be fair
Except for a company like Comcast which put themselves in a hole by establishing an incredibly high 250GB cap. For UBP to be effective against heavy users, they really need to drop it down to 80~100GB, something which is now impossible to do without a PR nightmare.
At this point, I'd rather see them just go with modest annual rate increases and benefit on the side from any hardware/bandwidth price drops. And yes, I am a both a Comcast user and shareholder.
250 isn't incredibly high, real bandwidth hogs can use 1 -3 TB a month on a fast cable connection, trust me comcast's 250gb cap is more than low effect to effect bandwidth hogs.
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trust me comcast's 250gb cap is more than low effect to effect cord cutters.
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No offence, but is there any public data about what people actually use? I hear people whine and cry about the 250 GB cap but I would like to see some hard numbers of what is actually used in the real world.
From personal experiencing... with two very heavy heavy users at my house... myself downloading games on Steam, running a Minecraft server, torrenting ISOs, streaming Netflix, playing XBOX, watching ESPN-3, and remote connecting to a Slingbox... while my sister does heavy photography, uploads to photobucket, more Steam, Hulu, and gawd knows what on IRC....
.... I actually average 80 GB per month (so says DDWRT). I had a few months where I hit 120 GB and one month in particular where I did 280 GB...
So please, I would really love to see some reference as to what an average user, cord-cutter, and techno-heavy user actually use.
Well I can give you some sort of idea on the cord cutter front. Every hour (42 minutes) of SD is around 350Mb, every hour of HD content is around 1.09Gb. Now there are some options for just downloading/streaming and viewing, but any long term model for this is going to involve something similar to P2P. So assume a 1:1 download/upload ratio, and you end up with 2.18Gb for every hour of pure content, probably closer to 2.5Gb when you add in commercials. (assuming some sort of legit option pops up, it will have commercials)
So a cord cutter on Comcast, using the connection for nothing but replacing TV, would hit the cap around 25 hour long shows per week.
That number drops even further when you factor in connection overhead.
And if you are really doing everything you listed, I'd lay money your DDWRT meter isn't accurate.
|reply to kpfx |
I used to use over 200gigs a month back in 2000 before shaw bought up my local ISP and started charging me double for half the speed. I still only get 1/3rd my upload that monarch.net gave me years ago and im on a higher tier that is supposed to give me 1 meg per second but can never break 70k unless it is 2am or later. I would consider myself a cord cutter since i get all my content via the web, tho my household still has cable but not for me. Under fair use i feel free to download any shows that are on any of the channels i also pay for threw cable fees. IE bones house etc the stuff shaw wants me to pay 2-3 bucks per episode on their shaw VOD.
I would have to be mad to pay that over the price of netflix.
|reply to kpfx |
I regularly come close to or exceed 250GB/month. Twice I've received a warning call from Comcast securities in regards to my usage. The problem is that its me and one other roommate that lives together. We have the 50/10 tier because we don't have cable. Between IPTV and my IPTV research project I'm working on for gradschool, the PS3 and 360 being played once in a while and me video chatting with my folks back home 250GB is quite minuscule. I'd be ok with flat rate price but when I'm paying for one of your top consumer tiers and you patronize me about my usage its like a slap in the face. Last month I used 372GB's. transferring to/from sites like Souncloud and Mixcloud also increase bandwidth significantly. FYI, those two site mentioned are like Cloud resources for music...legal and free for the most part.