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The highest appeal

The freedom and unrestricted nature of the internet is why I use it. Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it. Youtube and Facebook are not that big of a deal to me.
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the whole idea is bullshit.closing the internet and creating a rich man's net and a poor man's net is a crock of shit.i can see it happening though and then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

welcome to the corporate states of america

Corehhi
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said by gorehound:

the whole idea is bullshit.closing the internet and creating a rich man's net and a poor man's net is a crock of shit.i can see it happening though and then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

welcome to the corporate states of america

You don't even get everything going on here. Basically they are saying any where you go on the internet you will tracked. If they know you go to you tube they will also know you go to porn sites etc. All sorts of bad can happen from this.

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said by gorehound:

then we need to do something serious against those in power.
and do it worldwide at that.

and you think violent revolution over cell phone data plans is the solution?
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Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it.

Which is precisely why wireless Internet is outrageously over-hyped as the replacement for broadcast television (and ever radio for that matter). The dominant providers will never allow you to watch TV all day for "free". This is also a great argument against AT&T and Verizon's spectrum grab in what is left of the UHF Television spectrum.
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any where you go on the internet you will tracked. If they know you go to you tube they will also know you go to porn sites etc. All sorts of bad can happen from this.

Heh...you're already tracked everywhere you go on the Internet...your ISP already knows every visit you make to pornhub and how long you stay there. That is the least of the problems with this crap.

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and you think violent revolution over cell phone data plans is the solution?

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

Fascism has only been successfully defeated by bullets. I suspect the next anti-fascist revolt won't be any different.

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said by TamaraB:

said by FFH5:

and you think violent revolution over cell phone data plans is the solution?

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

Fascism has only been successfully defeated by bullets. I suspect the next anti-fascist revolt won't be any different.

And are you declaring HERE your intention to be a soldier in that revolution?

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said by FFH5:

And are you declaring HERE your intention to be a soldier in that revolution?

Are you declaring here your intention to be a quisling in that revolution?

tim_k
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Fascism has only been successfully defeated by bullets. I suspect the next anti-fascist revolt won't be any different.

Not always. Franco's death ended it in Spain.

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said by FFH5:

And are you declaring HERE your intention to be a soldier in that revolution?

Are you declaring here your intention to be a quisling in that revolution?

LMAO

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said by Steve B:

said by TamaraB:

said by FFH5:

And are you declaring HERE your intention to be a soldier in that revolution?

Are you declaring here your intention to be a quisling in that revolution?

LMAO

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go ··· %27s_law

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Try harder, you didn't use the "N azi " word yet. Come on, try again!

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Wow that is hilarious. I had never actually heard of Godwin's 'law' until now, but it is so very true (especially on this site!). I especially like the etiquette surrounding what to do when someone breaks this 'law'.
quote:
"there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress."

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Meow.
If we're gonna do Godwin's Law, we gotta do it right.

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said by 56403739:

said by Corehhi:

any where you go on the internet you will tracked. If they know you go to you tube they will also know you go to porn sites etc. All sorts of bad can happen from this.

Heh...you're already tracked everywhere you go on the Internet...your ISP already knows every visit you make to pornhub and how long you stay there. That is the least of the problems with this crap.

But know one is really looking at them. Get the software a running and you end up with a very easily searched data base.

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The day they start charging me to go to certain sites will be the day I cut off my internet access.

And hopefully most other people think the same way. If that happens, then maybe the ISPs will shut up about the whole issue and just give me my damn data.

gorehound
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that is the type of protests and stuff that would need to be done maybe.

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Fascism has only been successfully defeated by bullets. I suspect the next anti-fascist revolt won't be any different.

Don't tell Ghandi or Nelson Mandella

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said by DavePR:

Don't tell Ghandi Gandhi or Nelson Mandella

Gandhi fought Brit Imperialism, Mandela fought South African apartheid. Neither fought fascism. History 101!
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Wrong again. The databases already exist, and are often subpoenaed by the government and the RIAA/MPAA among others. You're about 10 years behind what is really going on now.

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Screw Godwin. The Nazi's never went away!

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"and you think violent revolution over cell phone data plans is the solution? "

it would be a really good place to start

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said by sapo:

The freedom and unrestricted nature of the internet is why I use it. Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it. Youtube and Facebook are not that big of a deal to me.

Exactly correct on the first part and I don't do much Youtube and Facebook should be against the law anyway!!

Still, it would be totally wrong to charge for it.

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I had never actually heard of Godwin's 'law' until now, but it is so very true (especially on this site!). I especially like the etiquette surrounding what to do when someone breaks this 'law'.

quote:
"there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress."

First of all... how the hell have you never heard of Godwin's law?
I'd welcome you to the internet but your join date suggests you've been here for a while.

Secondly, no one actually follows that retarded etiquette. Try pulling that shit and see what happens.
Expand your moderator at work
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Re: The highest appeal

said by sapo:

The freedom and unrestricted nature of the internet is why I use it. Once you make tiers that make like it TV I will just lose interest in it. Youtube and Facebook are not that big of a deal to me.

What this does to Facebook is amazing ("this" being content discrimination in data pipe companies):

Suddenly, everything anybody would ever want to do with Facebook, whether Facebook wants it or not, will be demanded of Facebook, since people wouldn't be able to just do it anywhere (forced to use Facebook). Facebook would AOLify, trying to be something to everyone, but even more so since carriers would REQUIRE you to use Facebook, whereas in theory you could STOP using AOL if you just canceled your credit card or bank account and stopped paying the credit card/bank account. The pressure on Facebook would be enormous. As soon as Facebook says "but we can do what we want", the users would dump the carriers to something that can do what the users want, and the carriers would bring big guns to Facebook to say "hey do what the users want, and damn your standards or individuality or desires for your site". The outcome would either be a watered-down weak Facebook, or the carriers would become more fractured when they start shutting out Facebook to choose their own systems. Either way, users would get 80% of what they want and 70% of what they need minimum, if not more. It would be screwed up, but it would not be exactly what the content-restricting types of entities want. Finally, all the control-types would find out that every ounce of control they attempt to put on it would bang back with tons of pressure.

Oh, they can do it. But the outcome would basically be to bankrupt the places doing it, or to overthrow the governments doing it, or both. In fact, if you want to tank a company or government, this would be one of the easy ways to do it. It would take a few decades, but it would not fail to tank them. But, they could be replaced with something that you don't want. Like a company that responds to the market, or a government that is for and by the people.