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baineschile
2600 ways to live
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI

why not

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
For what? Delivering visitors? I thought that's what my monthly Internet bill is paying for. Or am I going to get my access for free or a deeply-discounted rate if the ISP's collect money from the Web sites?


Frank
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join:2000-11-03
somewhere

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reply to baineschile
said by baineschile:

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?

because they shouldnt have to.

the isp customers pay for internet access.

if an isp wants to make money on website content then they should produce thier own.
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Corehhi

join:2002-01-28
Bluffton, SC
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reply to baineschile
said by baineschile:

why dont major traffic websites give a cut of their advertising sales to ISPs? cant a deal be worked out?

Why don't I have a free connection if I have to pay for every where I go???

amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
reply to ISurfTooMuch
said by ISurfTooMuch:

For what? Delivering visitors? I thought that's what my monthly Internet bill is paying for.

Was your monthly bill paying for last month's content, which didn't include the latest dancing reindeer and bloated pop-up "previews"? Or, this month's?

I see the ISP's dilemma when providers like Google can increase what visitors receive, without any apparent cost to visitors. That's like the traffic-pumping operations that provide "free" conference-call services by the tariffs receiving phone companies are allowed to charge originating phone companies. It's great. Everyone gets a free service. Nobody really sees the added infrastructure cost that the originating phone company has to absorb (and pass along to everyone in the form of higher rates).

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

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reply to baineschile
Are you kidding? What in the world makes you think ISPs have any right to content producers' profits? The ISP gets paid to set up and maintain the network. Without the content producers there would be no internet. Why the heck should anyone "cut a deal" with ISPs?

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

1 recommendation

reply to amigo_boy
said by amigo_boy:

said by ISurfTooMuch:

For what? Delivering visitors? I thought that's what my monthly Internet bill is paying for.

Was your monthly bill paying for last month's content, which didn't include the latest dancing reindeer and bloated pop-up "previews"? Or, this month's?

I see the ISP's dilemma when providers like Google can increase what visitors receive, without any apparent cost to visitors. That's like the traffic-pumping operations that provide "free" conference-call services by the tariffs receiving phone companies are allowed to charge originating phone companies. It's great. Everyone gets a free service. Nobody really sees the added infrastructure cost that the originating phone company has to absorb (and pass along to everyone in the form of higher rates).

Again, you demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of how internet traffic, peering, and transit works. You just don't understand, and you're mouthing off on a topic displaying your ignorance. Google is one of the largest "ISPs" in the world. It has massive peering arrangements with eyeball ISPs, because it both sends and receives enormous amounts of data. Your attempt to portray Google as a bandwidth hog is ridiculously misinformed.

Furthermore, bandwidth is stupidly, idiotically cheap, especially for monsters known as AT&T and Verizon.

Kearnstd
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:1
reply to baineschile
because these high bandwidth applications are why people subscribed to the broadband in the first place. if we just checked email than people would still use dialup.
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