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CitizenX9

join:2002-01-09
Longview, TX

Don't forget..

Legislation is being worked on to that requires people to use their REAL e-mail addresses. This may put services like hotmail out of service but oh well. If it rids the net of spammers, so be it. I have 8 e-mail accounts with my cable service and only use 2 for signing up for shit and 1 for REAL e-mail to friends ect and make sure NOBODY else gets it.



WildGod
God Is Dead
Premium
join:2002-01-30
NYC

While this may be crazy but if it came down to it I think services like hotmail should charge a $10 annual fee. this way people would have to put up credit card and a name. If someone started spamming that user could be blocked by his name. The $10 could go to helping prevent foreign spam. Id def pay $10 a year for that.
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[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 03:11:02]



TZi

join:2001-07-05
Miami Beach, FL
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to CitizenX9

Why wouldn't hotmail count as a "REAL" e-mail address?

Furthermore, while some legislation from congress might help tone this issue down a little, what can be done about spam originating from a foreign companies and foreign servers? My guess is that those annoying porn companies and related spamming institutions would just close up shop here and incorporate in some European country outside U.S. jurisdiction.

From what I know, one can operate a foreign corporation from the U.S. as long as one has legal representation in the host country. Since corporations protect individuals from personal liability, one could just operate a Russian spamming company from the U.S. Since the owner is not personally liable and the corporation is not in U.S. jurisdiction, how would they be stopped?

Looks like we'll have to wait for the UN to adopt SPAM legislation. BAH!
[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 03:17:28]



WildGod
God Is Dead
Premium
join:2002-01-30
NYC

there should be a way to block email from foreign countries.
i mean if its coming through foreign servers it shouldnt be that hard to block. i mean just have an option to block all foreign mail except for certain addresses you could choose.
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SYNACK
Just Firewall It
Premium,Mod
join:2001-03-05
Venice, CA

A significant part of the population HAS friends overseas, so you cannot block based on Country.

Also remember that the e-mail actually originates in the US, it just takes a detour through an open relay.

There are services that keep track of known open relays, e.g. Maps and allow your mail server to reject all connections from open relays, dial-up IPs, etc. anything that circumvents legitimate SMTP servers. This needs to be done at the ISP.

My ISP just transitioned to attbi, and a new feature that is enabled by default(!) is a service by Brightmail. It basically utilizes a network of strategically placed fake e-mail accounts, that, when hit, will generate appropriate filters that are immediately deployed to the mail-walls at all subscribing ISPs.
During the last week, It trapped about 15 genuine spams (they are placed in a special online folder for inspection, but get automatically deleted after some time). It only missed 2 SPAM e-mails. This is actually not bad!

Still, all my SPAM gets reported to spamcop.
[text was edited by author 2002-02-17 05:39:20]



Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
reply to CitizenX9

Brightmail, which for Earthlink subscribers is
called Spaminator, has gotten a lot more effective
at reducing the amount of spam that gets to your
inbox lately. When they first started it, Spaminator
was somewhat hit or miss, getting some spam and letting
others through while occasionally stopping legitimate
email.

There has been one spammer that has been getting past
it, and I was using Mailwasher to bounce their spam
back, to no effect. A few days ago, the spamming stopped:
I found out that they got caught by Spaminator, and so
never reached my inbox.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're
very sophisticated idiots." -
Doctor Who



WildGod
God Is Dead
Premium
join:2002-01-30
NYC

how does mailwasher work?
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CitizenX9

join:2002-01-09
Longview, TX
reply to TZi

Hotmail isn't a "real" e-mail address. It is not an e-mail assigned to you by your Internet Service Provider. That's the difference between a "real" e-mail and one you get from free mail services like hotmail.



Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
reply to WildGod

Here's their FAQ page: »www.mailwasher.net/faq.php

In short, what it does is to allow one to intercept
email at the server, and then decide whether to
delete, accept or bounce it back to the sender. At
present it only works with POP3 based email, which rules
out Yahoo or Hotmail. However, the developer says that
if there's enough demand, a future version will support
MAPI and web based accounts.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're
very sophisticated idiots." -
Doctor Who



Paladin$
Have Gun - Will Travel
Mod 2002
join:2000-04-02
California
reply to CitizenX9

If you change ISPs fairly often a Hotmail or Yahoo mail account may be the only stable point of contact.