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pnh102
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said by hottboiinnc4:

the FCC CAN make rules; but only for radio services really.

EXACTLY.

And those rules are merely operational details of the FCC's original congressional mandate. The FCC can't simply go make up the law as it pleases.
hottboiinnc4
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Cleveland, OH

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The good part is what they create isn't law at all. Except "rules" that are pretty much a waste of time. It would be like Karl making his own broadband rules for ISPs to create. Good luck enforcing something that they can't. The FCC has NO legal power and the people on here don't see it that way. They see the FCC as God and can regulate the Internet and all. Well they can't; and its time the FCC is put into their place and only has control over the public airwaves and that's it.
fiberguy2
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It's nice to see that there are people here that realize that FCC just makes it up as they go and makes, no, INVENTS their own rules as they go.

First they couldn't do anything with the internet because the courts said it was an information service. So, the FCCs answer to that was to arbitrarily reclassify it and THEN try to push it's weight back in.

The courts made it clear to the FCC that they couldn't make the rules they did. The FCC simply changed a word and and are now trying to make an end run around the judicial branch. Hell, even congress can't do this. The old saying goes, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Only, when it comes to the internet, the FCC decided the the duck now moo's and pushed ahead again.

You said "and the people on here don't see it that way." The problem with a lot of the people here is that they want what they want and don't care what anyone else wants. They also don't care about things like "the law" and how society has to kinda play by those laws. They will just simply see it they want they want and don't care.. why? .. because they know what's best for the rest of us. Many of these would be the same group of people that like using BBR buzz words like "myopic view" and the sort and they don't realize that they, themselves, are myopic in their thinking because they're only looking at one single issue at a time and not the greater picture. It's frustrating, to say the least.

But yea.. the FCC is there for radio spectrum. They're not there to make rules about satellite dish placement rules/rights, or if a building owner can engage in a legal contract between themselves and a provider for entry, or how the internet will be used, or any other BS rules they've decided to make up as they go along. These would all be issues for congress.
hottboiinnc4
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So in the end the Courts need either to slap the FCC and start making them paying fines as well, or Congress needs to just shit-can them and start over.

funchords
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join:2001-03-11
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said by fiberguy2:

The courts made it clear to the FCC that they couldn't make the rules they did. The FCC simply changed a word and and are now trying to make an end run around the judicial branch. Hell, even congress can't do this. The old saying goes, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Only, when it comes to the internet, the FCC decided the the duck now moo's and pushed ahead again.

Pretty much true. It's 2005 all over again.
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