Topic 'Re: Lame to say the least...' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250692 en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:05:58 EDT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:05:58 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25258795 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25258795 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 02:56:57 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25257152 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25257152 Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:56:49 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25254046 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25254046 Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:12:04 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253987
In today's world, in the younger generation's budget, things like having a laptop, or a computer, a smart phone with an un-affordable-to-them service plan, an MP3 player, and other toys are far more important than, I dunno, getting serious and establishing themselves. Besides, its easier to just go 'crash' at a friend's house and float on by.

see, the extreme examples do work both ways, but really, $20K a year does allow for someone to afford a $300 computer if they really made it a priority.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253987 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:52:59 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253970 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253970 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:47:34 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253932 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25253932 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:31:32 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25252665 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25252665 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:24:28 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251725 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251725 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:32:00 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251375 said by jupiter837:

I also wonder how many under 20k a year households have computers. I was once in that position and I didn't have one, or a smartphone, sometimes not even a phone. That's like being offered a free stove when you don't have anything to cook, and then being told well you don't need the stove then do you?

Your not taking into account that computers don't cost as much as they used to. Even people in that income bracket can afford the $200 - $400 setups for basic needs.
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I dumped Norton 4 years ago (ever since it allowed a worm to nail my workstation without stopping it). I switched to ESET IS and haven't had issues since.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251267 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:37:12 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251113 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251113 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:59:56 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251080 said by fifty nine:

A pentium 4 or older core 2 duo running Linux is plenty for basic websurfing and email.

Actually, a P4 is rather decent on the 'net and even an older C2D is rather impressive. You can do it with a P3, but you're really pushing it (Flash Content, Java, etc).

Not everyone needs an i3 or newer. A C2D (and even my Pentium E5200) can handle the 'net with ease. My wife's Athlon64 2GHz (single core) doesn't have a problem, either.

I would suggest at least 512MB of Memory and Windows XP, though. That should be easy enough to come up with.
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If Comcast is planning on offering low cost computers....then they didn't mention that to the service techs that will be dealing with those. Rumors are based on speculation and hearsay you know.

They are going to do the computer part of it with a third party partner, not Comcast techs. They are also going to use charity orgs and community groups to provide training:

Be eligible for one piece of pre-configured, quality computer equipment (which may
include rebuilt PCs, netbooks, or other devices) for less than $150 (the equipment
will be sold to the customer by a third-party vendor-partner of Comcast’s, with
Comcast providing any subsidy required to bring the equipment cost below $150).
4. Have access to web-based, print, and classroom-based training programs, provided
in partnership with One Economy and other current and future Comcast community
partners in our digital literacy efforts, including Boys and Girls Clubs, and Urban
League and National Council of La Raza affiliate organizations. Comcast will create
and fund these programs (although we may seek Foundation and other funds to
defray these costs).

...

Several computer training and support options will be offered. At the time of installation,
each participating household will received basic instructional materials and a phone number for
a dedicated support desk. The computer equipment will be pre-configured with a “wizard” to
facilitate e-mail set-ups and the setting of parental controls. Shortcuts to “getting started”
tutorials will appear on the desktop. Each piece of equipment will ship with Norton security preinstalled. Comcast and its partner organizations will offer “training days” at NSLPparticipating schools in Comcast’s service areas, as well as at instruction facilities operated by
our community partners.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251055 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:42:26 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251050 said by Really :

If Comcast is planning on offering low cost computers....then they didn't mention that to the service techs that will be dealing with those. Rumors are based on speculation and hearsay you know.

It's not speculation or hearsay, it's from Comcast's own proposal to the FCC.

Do you really think they would have told the service techs their plan before releasing it to the FCC?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251050 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:41:24 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250847 Each tech site will do their own community involvement for potential new customers.
Even if there is a low cost option for internet access, 1MB service is still better than the 756k for DSL that ATT already offers, which is also having union issues, yet again.
With the recent merger, some of us service techs can't keep the service working correctly since everything went digital and Motorola is having a hard time keeping up with the demand for new DVR's, so now service is lacking and a lot of fringe benefits for the holidays are now gone, because of merger.
I am beginning to question the direction of the cable part of the company and how we can't advance within the company to strict performance standards to keep those in their current positions or bring in a big wave of new hires to perform like they want them to be. just saying......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250847 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:35:34 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251007 said by cypherstream:

Oh man, I hope they expand into my neighborhood. I moved about 2 miles from their end of line. It would be nice if they could be added as competition to Service Electric. Plus SECV doesn't have Remote DVR programming or an iphone/ipad app, or HD VOD (or such an extensive on demand library for that matter).

You could get a tivo or media center to do all of those things. Seriously, I am never using a crappy cable DVR ever again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251007 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:30:35 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251000 Comcast will expand its existing network by at least 1,500 miles per year for the next
three years (2011, 2012, and 2013), making broadband Internet available to an estimated
400,000 additional homes;

Note the highlights.

They didn't commit to 400k new homes being served. They only committed to the 1500 miles of new plant per year for 3 years which they estimate will bring in 400k additional subscribers during that period. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25251000 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:29:45 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250978 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250978 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:25:43 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250958 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250958 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:22:31 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250858

Under this Comcast Broadband Opportunity Program (“CBOP”), each eligible
participating family will:

1. Receive the Economy version of our High-Speed Internet Service for $9.95 a month –
a rate for which the household will qualify so long as it meets the “eligibility
criteria” below;
2. Pay no installation or modem charges or fees (although we may use our self-install
program);
3. Be eligible for one piece of pre-configured, quality computer equipment (which may
include rebuilt PCs, netbooks, or other devices) for less than $150 (the equipment
will be sold to the customer by a third-party vendor-partner of Comcast’s, with
Comcast providing any subsidy required to bring the equipment cost below $150).
4. Have access to web-based, print, and classroom-based training programs, provided
in partnership with One Economy and other current and future Comcast community
partners in our digital literacy efforts, including Boys and Girls Clubs, and Urban
League and National Council of La Raza affiliate organizations. Comcast will create
and fund these programs (although we may seek Foundation and other funds to
defray these costs).

So I'm guessing that they may partner with some recycling firm and offer older PCs or maybe get low cost netbooks for low income households. It really isn't hard to get a basic $150 computer even if it is a couple of years old. A pentium 4 or older core 2 duo running Linux is plenty for basic websurfing and email. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250858 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:05:14 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250828 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250828 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:57:47 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250795 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250795 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:52:06 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250769 said by Chubbysumo:

actually, it makes no mention that these have to be now hook ups, so it could be just adding 400000 subscribers within their service areas, regardless of if they are new hookups or not, would finish that. They probably go thru 400k total hookups of new, and returning customers every 2 to 3 years, so this is one of those "already gets filled regardless" requirements. The $10 dollar broadband is gonna not be tru broadband, at less than 4mbps down and less than 1 up, but hey, the FCC has no power to regulate, and the FTC is owned by the stockholders anyways.

Have you even read the letter? Didn't think so. They are adding an estimated 400k homes by adding 1500 miles of plant per year:

Comcast will expand its existing network by at least 1,500 miles per year for the next
three years (2011, 2012, and 2013), making broadband Internet available to an estimated
400,000 additional homes;]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250769 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:47:40 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250752 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250752 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:44:24 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250712 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250712 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:37:11 EDT Re: Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250708 --
I'm better than you!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Lame-to-say-the-least-25250708 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:34:40 EDT Lame to say the least... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Lame-to-say-the-least-25250692 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Lame-to-say-the-least-25250692 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:28:43 EDT