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Lincolnshire, IL | Re: Yawn If we know our wireless providing friends, there will be tremendous pressure for them to offer plans that won't suit any subscribers needs, at least in regards to smartphone data pricing.
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|   rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | Re: Yawn Smartphone connection plans...that's another annoying hotbutton of mine. So many of these smartphones have IEEE802.11 capabilities; why should I automatically get charged extra money just because of the device I want to connect to your network? What if, due to the known costs, I do most of my Internet accessing through WiFi instead of your (mobile) phone network? Auuuuggggghhhh!!!!
(I guess what I would really need is e.g. an Android phone w/o mobile phone network hardware...but can't think that's too likely. Therefore, the mobile carrier can't justify charging me extra.)
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| | | | Re: Yawn said by rchandra:Smartphone connection plans...that's another annoying hotbutton of mine. So many of these smartphones have IEEE802.11 capabilities; why should I automatically get charged extra money just because of the device I want to connect to your network? What if, due to the known costs, I do most of my Internet accessing through WiFi instead of your (mobile) phone network? Auuuuggggghhhh!!!!
I agree with this. If you buy your own carrier unsubsidized smartphone, you should be able to authorize it for voice only access on a wireless providers network. And use WiFi to you heart's content off the network. | |
| | | | | rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | Re: Yawn said by Zonerider:You may want to look at the ipod touch.
...which doesn't have any mobile phone hardware. I still want to be able to talk, just not necessarily access the Internet over the mobile phone network. Plus due to the RIAA and others, it's a PITA to use with Linux. Plus what's probably even worse than being forced into a smartphone plan is by default being in the walled off Apple garden. (Yes, I know they can be jailbroken, hence the phrase "by default".)
I already have a Palm T|X and a Sanyo (Kyocera) Mirro; mentioning a smartphone at this point is theoretical for me. The Palm acts as my portable music player.
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united kingd | Re: Yawn yes but with ipod touc, you can easily use unlimited and unrestricted wifi, and there are many companies out there offering voice over wifi. foocal, vopium. just to name a few.
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| | | | | rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | Re: Yawn Think "GPS receiver" plus "E911." My Mirro has that. Plus WiFi isn't everywhere a cell tower is. Cell towers (per carrier) are uniform. One never knows how one will be able to connect to WiFi, who owns the hotspot, what the WPA keys will be, etc. When I'm acutally mobile, I'm not aware of any WiFi handoff mechanism. When the going gets tough and serious, the most logging on and keying I want going on is between my Mirro and Sprint/Nextel's towers (which is quite fast and pretty much totally automatic).
VoIP over WiFi != actually using a mobile phone. A minute after posting my reply, I thought of editing my post to include this sort of comparison. I guess it needed to be said instead of just implied.
Besides...the locked-in iTunes store (also not supported on Linux) makes the iPod Touch out of the question. iPod Linux support is hacky and kludgy. (Hey, I'm all for a good hack, I just don't necessarily want to rely on it. At least the Palm protocols are well enough understood for things like JPilot, although I'm not sure whether those protocols were published or reverse-engineered.)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Yawn How did this thread turn into a conversation about smart phones? Is it any surprise that a company is offered a walled garden Internet service on a non-smart phone? Is this really news? Obviously a non-smart phone isn't capable of handling the Internet in the same way a iPhone, Droid device, BB, WP7 phone would.
Sound the alarms! I can't fit lumber in my M3, why doesn't it work like a truck bed?! Call the government! | |
| | | | | | | rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | Re: Yawn said by thehondaboy:How did this thread turn into a conversation about smart phones? here It is at the very least marginally on-topic because it is about objectionable carrier practices...maybe not precisely MetroPCS, but carriers. But maybe not. Feel free to improve the DSLR ecosphere by asking a moderator to move the topic to somewhere else more appropriate.
said by thehondaboy:Sound the alarms! I can't fit lumber in my M3, why doesn't it work like a truck bed?! Call the government!
Actually, I'm quite disappointed in that thought. I'm quite libertarian, and wish the government weren't so all-encompassing.
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| | | | | That's why I use T-Mobile.
No data plan required if you bring your own phone or buy one from them w/o the subsidy discount.
Can't do that anymore with ATT and certainly can't do this with Verizon. Both carriers claim these rules are "for our convenience and to enhance the customer experience." | |
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| | | said by rchandra:(I guess what I would really need is e.g. an Android phone w/o mobile phone network hardware...but can't think that's too likely. Therefore, the mobile carrier can't justify charging me extra.)
Well pull out y'er wallet because Samsung is releasing an iPod competitor that runs Android. It's basically a Samsung Galaxy phone without all the phone hardware, but I think it has a mic...
»www.engadget.com/2010/12/29/sams···xy-play/
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| | | rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | Re: Yawn Yeah, I've heard of the Samsung portables; I thought they are kind of neat!
I guess the language does not permit me to convey thoughts adequately, or at least not easily. I do realize the (cognitive?) error now.
What I mean is, I want to be able to make mobile phone calls, but physically be unable to access the Internet through my mobile device over the cell towers. I still wish to access the Internet, just not by means of the cell towers.
It's unfortunate that competition is not good enough for some carrier to offer services whereby, based on my smartphone logging into the cell network, my profile (or whatever you'd call it) does not allow me to access the Internet. After all...for other phones, many carriers are willing to put SMS and Internet access blocks on.
EDIT: or...well, yeah, maybe so, according to Gbcue 
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|  GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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kudos:8 | Look at T-Mobile.
You can buy any phone unsubsidized and put it on any voice only plan you want.
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