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amigo_boy

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reply to Somnambul33t

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said by Somnambul33t:

it's certainly not the federal government b/c it's not listed anywhere in the constitution.

The federal constitution doesn't enumerate interstate highways, education, energy, wildlife or forest conservation, national park creation and operation, environmental protection, labor and occupational safety enforcement, and dozens of other things.

Would you get rid of those things?

I'm just trying to help you contextualize your comment for readers. Do you selectively adopt a minimalist position when you believe it won't benefit you. Or, would you truly like to see the Grand Canyon turned into a time-share condominum complex?


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said by amigo_boy:

said by Somnambul33t:

it's certainly not the federal government b/c it's not listed anywhere in the constitution.

The federal constitution doesn't enumerate interstate highways, education, energy, wildlife or forest conservation, national park creation and operation, environmental protection, labor and occupational safety enforcement, and dozens of other things.

Would you get rid of those things?

YES

interstate highways are completely constitutional: commerce clause was originally intended to grant the federal government authority to settle disputes between entities across state lines, to promote the transfer of goods between states, and to prevent the states from boycotting/placing high taxes on goods from other states. Inter-state highways are completely under this clause, however i'd argue that normal community/intra-state roads are not and we should not be spending federal funds on them.

national parks should be abolished, the land sold off to private individuals/companies, and the entire department of the interior disbanded.

Education has NO place in federal policy. at all. abolish the dept of ed and restore the balance of power back to state and local governments to allow them to choose their own values.

the EPA is the single worst entity in the US and has caused millions of deaths worldwide with their policies. destroy it and save people and businesses hundreds or millions of dollars and thousands of lives a year.

labor laws like wage laws and OSHA are one of the single-biggest contributors to the mass offshoring of US jobs.
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amigo_boy

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said by Somnambul33t:

said by amigo_boy:

said by Somnambul33t:

it's certainly not the federal government b/c it's not listed anywhere in the constitution.

The federal constitution doesn't enumerate interstate highways, education, energy, wildlife or forest conservation, national park creation and operation, environmental protection, labor and occupational safety enforcement, and dozens of other things.

Would you get rid of those things?

YES

Thanks for your honesty. Most people only selectively invoke literal "enumerated powers" argument. When faced with the things I mentioned above, they backpeddle and say "that's different" (for fear of being irrelevant).

said by Somnambul33t:

interstate highways are completely constitutional: commerce clause was originally intended to grant the federal government authority to settle disputes between entities across state lines

But, now I'm detecting some backpeddling. (Chuckle.).

There were no disputes between states when interstate highways were created. They were created just because the federal government was in the best position to manage it.

The same argument could be made for consumer protections. That consolidating and standardizing protections reduces cross-state disputes and enhances commerce by making commerce more predictable.

said by Somnambul33t:

national parks should be abolished, the land sold off to private individuals/companies, ...

Education [too]. ...

the EPA [too] ...

labor laws like wage laws and OSHA [too].

Good. I'm glad to help readers contextualize your remarks on consumer protections.

It's easy to get all goose-bumply with Jingoist rhetoric. But, when people realize how that's either not consistently applied (or what it means when it is) the tingly feeling tends to go away rather quickly.

The prospect of irrelevancy has that effect on people.

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