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iLive4Fusion
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join:2006-07-13
reply to Steve B

Re: Lol...

said by Steve B:

said by Jim Kirk:

That's the case for the 4G $10 fee. Like I said, I'm assuming they'll do the same for the new 3G fee.

I don't have Sprint (have Verizon) and I was curious. My thinking is then why bother staying with Sprint when you get get arguably better phones and more coverage for just a few bucks more?

Uhh you don't get the adventures of Sprint 4G on Verizon.. You know like the thrill of running up and down the block to see how many time's your Evo 4G goes back to 3G or No Service.

With Verizon if your in a covered market by the map for LTE, chances are you are covered inside and out
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criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
said by iLive4Fusion:

Uhh you don't get the adventures of Sprint 4G on Verizon.. You know like the thrill of running up and down the block to see how many time's your Evo 4G goes back to 3G or No Service.

I have to say that's very funny. I laughed out loud when I read it. That is EXACTLY what it's like in my area when I take a walk with my laptop!

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to iLive4Fusion
you won't have that option on VZW. They don't have any 4G LTE phones.


jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1
reply to criggs
said by criggs:

said by iLive4Fusion:

Uhh you don't get the adventures of Sprint 4G on Verizon.. You know like the thrill of running up and down the block to see how many time's your Evo 4G goes back to 3G or No Service.

I have to say that's very funny. I laughed out loud when I read it. That is EXACTLY what it's like in my area when I take a walk with my laptop!

Yes, I treat Sprint's 4G like a WiFi hotspot. It is not a particularly hardy mobile solution, nor is it something that I would leave enabled while traveling about, as it just unnecessarily eats the battery and the signal frequently drops in and out. It is great when you have a good signal and plan on being in the same location for some time. I use it in my office all day long, and it works almost everywhere I go around town, but only once I am stationary, as the signal will drop and come back many times in just a short 10 minute drive.

I would NEVER recommend Wimax for anyone planning on using a device while commuting. Once you arrive at some destination, and if you have a decent 4G signal, the service is perfect. It works great for some people, but it may not be the best solution for others.

criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
said by jmn1207:

I would NEVER recommend Wimax for anyone planning on using a device while commuting. Once you arrive at some destination, and if you have a decent 4G signal, the service is perfect.

My experience this evening is going to be interesting. For the first time, my laptop will be indoors in an OUTDOOR 4G WiMax area. All of my previous experience since mid-November has been either in 4G INDOOR saturation coverage or 3G-only coverage.

So I have no idea what to expect. Have you had some experience with that? Will I simply get a weak 4G signal that blips in and out if I'm indoors but with normal speeds? Or will I get a relatively reliable signal but with slow below-4G-spec speeds?

unoriginal
Premium
join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA
reply to iLive4Fusion
Isn't VZW running LTE on 700mhz? If so that will allow the signal to get into buildings a lot better than the 2100 WiMax that Sprint/Clear is using.


jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1
reply to criggs
said by criggs:

So I have no idea what to expect. Have you had some experience with that? Will I simply get a weak 4G signal that blips in and out if I'm indoors but with normal speeds? Or will I get a relatively reliable signal but with slow below-4G-spec speeds?

Sorry, but it's anyone's guess. On the west side of the building, I get no 4G signal unless I am right next to the windows, where on the east side I normally see 1-2 (out of 3) bars. My personal, albeit limited, experience has been that there is very little structural penetration capability with the Wimax signal.

criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
said by jmn1207:

On the west side of the building, I get no 4G signal unless I am right next to the windows, where on the east side I normally see 1-2 (out of 3) bars.

And at those times when you only get 4G when next to the window, how is your 4G performance? Does it connect and disconnect repeatedly but with normal speeds when connected? Or is it a stable connection but with slow speeds?


jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1
I only tested my signal in various spots and did a quick speed test on the other side of the building. Where my office is located, I get a very stable, fast connection. Although fast is relative, I suppose. I've rarely seen my speeds dip below 3000 kbps, and I've seen consistent speed test results over 8000 kbps on some test servers. A good AT&T or TMO signal will see higher results at times, but I haven't found anything nearly as consistent throughout the day.


tiger72
SexaT duorP
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1
reply to unoriginal
Sprint is actually using 2600mhz.


ReVeLaTeD
Premium
join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA
reply to criggs
said by criggs:

said by iLive4Fusion:

Uhh you don't get the adventures of Sprint 4G on Verizon.. You know like the thrill of running up and down the block to see how many time's your Evo 4G goes back to 3G or No Service.

I have to say that's very funny. I laughed out loud when I read it.

So did I. I don't even have Sprint, but the imagery was comedy.


Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA
reply to hottboiinnc
They will though and when they become available $$$$$$


BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
kudos:3
reply to unoriginal
said by unoriginal:

Isn't VZW running LTE on 700mhz? If so that will allow the signal to get into buildings a lot better than the 2100 WiMax that Sprint/Clear is using.

That's the whole problem with Sprint/Clearwire's approach right there. Not only do they have trouble providing a decent indoor experience, they also require more cell sites to provide coverage, which increases costs. The 4G "war" may end up having a lot less to do technology chosen and a whole lot to do with spectrum positions.
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criggs

join:2000-07-14
New York, NY
Reviews:
·Millenicom
reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:

I only tested my signal in various spots and did a quick speed test on the other side of the building. Where my office is located, I get a very stable, fast connection.

Well, when I got to that area where outdoor was available and indoor wasn't, I was indoors, as I expected, and tried to connect.

What happened was that the modem went crazy. It kept switching between Searching for Networks and No Networks Found. It never even got close to connecting. Perhaps that is typical behavior when one is an outdoor only 4G coverage area and one isn't outdoors.

What was more disturbing and surprising was what happened when I got back to my apartment, this rock-steady and fast 4G connection that I've had since November 8th. It looks like the modem has been either permanently or temporarily traumatized by the experience in the outdoor area. It's taking forever to connect, the download speeds sometimes drop from 10 mbps to 4 mbps right in front of my eyes over a 1- to 2-minute period, I had the connection actually drop on me an hour after I started using it, and once it even said it had connected but I couldn't get any connectivity. Really weird.

Could the modem have gotten screwed up by some information it collected at that other outdoor only coverage area? Is it conceivable that a tower can be configured in such a manner that it can screw up a modem's subsequent ability to connect even to towers with which it has previously had no problems?