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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

Hollywood Reporter - go figure:

»www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/c···eb-95087


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I think now that this has reached boiling point here, a lot of international eyes are focused on us.

People have gone from saying "Look at those poor bastards" to "OMG with consolidated media ownership that could happen/is happening here too."



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said by Davesnothere:

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This is the CRTC's link to JF's Application of 2011-01-28 to Stay CRTC Decision 2011-44 (UBB), and is our first public online proof that they received it from him.

»www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2011/···0_11.htm

Hmm I've cleared cache etc etc but the only way I see it on crtc site is through your link.I see no 2011 under stay of execution in chrome or IE when I dont follow your link

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Yes - for whatever reason, 2011 hasn't been listed in the index yet. I had to reverse engineer the 2011 listing page (not hard) to find it.



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said by nanook:

Word is getting out about how UBB will negatively impact almost everyone.
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TheRecord - CRTC ruling sparks fears of expanding internet fees

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Paulina Cumming is required to watch as many as 10 YouTube videos a week for her University of Guelph biology class.

She accesses most of her homework online, including lectures and notes. With the Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission deciding on Jan. 25 to allow usage-based billing by internet companies, Cumming is worried she and her five housemates won’t be able to afford the higher cost of accessing the internet...

One small internet service provider, TekSavvy based in Chatham....



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CFRB !

said by AkFubar:

This morning the CFRB Ottawa correspondent confirms that the Harper gov't is not happy with the CRTC decision and is reviewing it. The correspondent goes on to say that internet bills will increase as much as 90%. Also mentioned were rallies and the big petition. The correspondent then says he figures Clement will send the decision back to the CRTC for a "common sense" review. This got primetime morning exposure and CFRB still has a fairly large listening audience.

Great balls of fire... why on earth would you send it back where it came from in the first place. They should just kill it.



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KARL BODE's Update (DSLR News)

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Yes !

»Canadians: Meet Your New, Confusing And Overpriced Broadband



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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

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I quoted this post because I was able to read the CHAT LOG even AFTER the event was done.

You might find it to be interesting.

said by Savant:

If anyone is interested, there is a live web-chat on this issue for the next 60 minutes at the Globe & Mail.

»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tec···1889976/

More info on this at :

»Telecom Analyst vs Telecom consultant @Noon Re:UBB


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Toronto Star today...

»www.moneyville.ca/blog/post/9313···way?bn=1



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UBB - The Internet TAX

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The linked thread has a decent VIDEO against UBB, presenting it as a TAX, which by one formal definition, it IS !

»UBB - The Internet Tax - The Youtube Video



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Latest CBC

said by AkFubar:

The Government will decide by March 1...

»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2011···ent.html



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CPAC Feed of Question Period

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Clement was under the gun on UBB today.

»Watching CPAC right now online



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CBC P&P

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Also Marc Garneau (LIB) & Charlie Angus (NDP)

»Tony Clement on CBC News (Power & Politics) now!



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CNOC writes to CLEMENT

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»Letter from CNOC to Clement

»www.michaelgeist.ca/component/op···d/gid,40



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CFIB comes to Bat

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»CFIB letter to Clement

»www.cfib-fcei.ca/english/advocac···rtc.html



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Wall Street Journal

"Canada's Clement Reviewing Regulator's Decision On Usage-Based Billing"

»online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201···983.html



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PM Harper Orders Review of UBB

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»Canadian PM Orders Review Of CRTC Decision - Karl Bode - DSLR

»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tec···1890567/
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The campaign also got a jolt of legitimacy from a formal, 27-page petition filed to cabinet by a lone computer consultant in Montreal.

Jean-François Mezei, who runs Vaxination Informatique, stayed up late last Wednesday finishing a type of document more commonly filed by the lawyers and regulatory experts of large telecom companies like Bell and Telus.

Mr. Mezei first got involved in 2008 at a protest against carriers being allowed to “throttle,” or squeeze, their networks to control network congestion.

“This process has taken me now from a being a protester on Parliament Hill to successfully handing a petition to the governor in council. And it looks like the minister has gotten the hint that this needs to reversed,” Mr. Mezei said.

He said he called Industry Canada on Tuesday and the bureaucrat answering the phone said that in 10 years at Industry he had never seen a document filed by an individual go so high.

“My petition was an enabler of this, rather than the cause. But it still feels good to feel like you’re part of something big.”

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»www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2011/0···ent.html

»www.straight.com/article-370996/···decision


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Clement on CTV

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In the 1st clip (from CTV's PowerPlay), Industry Canada Minister Tony Clement is interviewed for 5 minutes and he seems to either understand the issue, or has at least been well briefed on the topic.

»watch.ctv.ca/news/powerplay#clip411156

He appears only briefly part way thru this 2nd clip of several interviewees.

»watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/interne···ip411276

This is one of the threads discussing his interview(s) on CTV.

»Tony Clement on CTV on UBB - Watch here!



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TSI vs Bell debate - CBC

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»Teksavvy vs. Bell coming up on Lang & O'Leary re. UBB

It's around the 35 minute mark on the below clip (the above link contains a different URL claiming to lead there) :

»www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Money/12···76171595



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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

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Not sure exactly where THIS thread is heading, but might become important :

»MPs vote to investigate UBB at Industry Committee



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Strombo again

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»Strombo talks UBB again!

There may be a longer bit from him tonight on UBB than what's described in the thread, not sure.

Need to review the full Ep, if it's available online.



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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

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Rocky posted that he thinks she seemed angry.

What's YOUR opinion ?

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqDMFNq-rJs


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What is a FAIR PRICE for INTERNET ?

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Now that we have heard all this flap about UBB, some may be wondering whether Bell and the other big providers just MIGHT have a point after all.

So what might be a fair rate to pay for Internet, if we wish to take into account paying a reasonable price for using more ?

I posted this thread only last week, and its proposal still makes sense to me.

»A Fair Rate for REAL UBB on 5Mb DSL service

Just yesterday, The Globe and Mail has also offered opinions about just that same question :

»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tec···1890596/

THEY wrote :

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"Rather than ensuring consumers receive fair Internet pricing, the CRTC seems content to line the pockets of Cable and telecommunications companies by forcing Canadian consumers to pay Internet data rates that have no basis in reality."


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Clement hints feds may reverse Internet-billing ruling

»www.montrealgazette.com/technolo···ory.html

Looks like we may have a decision by the end of the month!



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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

More from Nowak
»wordsbynowak.com/2011/02/02/cana···g-point/

Ellen Roseman
»www.thestar.com/business/article···s-to-act



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Re: What is a FAIR PRICE for INTERNET ?

said by Davesnothere:

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Just yesterday, The Globe and Mail has also offered opinions about just that same question :

»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tec···1890596/

THEY wrote :

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"Rather than ensuring consumers receive fair Internet pricing, the CRTC seems content to line the pockets of Cable and telecommunications companies by forcing Canadian consumers to pay Internet data rates that have no basis in reality."

This is one of the better articles I've read. He approaches it properly and talks about what is fair.

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a new one today
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»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi···1890730/

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We established independent regulators because they’re supposed to have the expertise, the freedom from partisan pressures, the time and the longer-term perspective to make the painful and complex decisions required to keep industries that are otherwise liable to market failure operating in some semblance of the public interest. Does the cabinet really want to position itself as the effective arbiter for all the campaigns of rent-seeking and special pleading that an institution such as the CRTC has historically dealt with?



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Re: Globe & Other 2011-44 (UBB) articles

New one from Cyberpresse :

»technaute.cyberpresse.ca/nouvell···eil_POS4



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....Does the cabinet really want to position itself as the effective arbiter for all the campaigns of rent-seeking and special pleading that an institution such as the CRTC has historically dealt with?

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Prob'ly not.

BUT

If THAT's what it takes to make things right, the SO BE IT !!!

(at least THIS time, anyway)


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Some of Today's Article Links (Group 1)

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»Roseman on OpenMedia-UBB

»Windsor Star Article on UBB

»Another Cyberpresse article about UBB (3rd so far)(FR)

»Globe & Mail op-ed by former CTRC vice-chair

»Financial Post: Billing Reveral Would be bad Policy

»www.techdirt.com/articles/201101···ls.shtml