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heat84
Bit Torrent Apologist

join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Get primitive! Its the only way.

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!
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Bit Torrent is my DVR.

dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
said by heat84:

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

This is exactly the sort of thing one should expect when the government is given broad powers to regulate ISPs.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
said by dynodb:

said by heat84:

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

This is exactly the sort of thing one should expect when the government is given broad powers to regulate ISPs.

No, it's not. The CRTC is a regulatory authority, not government. They are charged with developing and implementing telecommunications policy. In this case, they responded to a request for UBB from the major providers. The government can review their decision, however.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
said by DKS:

The government can review their decision, however.

... and it very well looks like they are, in fact, reviewing the decision.

»www.theglobeandmail.com/news/tec···1889321/

This is where things could get very interesting.


trainwreck6

join:2010-09-21
off track
reply to DKS
said by DKS:

said by dynodb:

said by heat84:

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

This is exactly the sort of thing one should expect when the government is given broad powers to regulate ISPs.

No, it's not. The CRTC is a regulatory authority, not government. They are charged with developing and implementing telecommunications policy. In this case, they responded to a request for UBB from the major providers. The government can review their decision, however.

It's time for us to get Egyptian.


FFH5
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
said by trainwreck6:

It's time for us to get Egyptian.

LOL, the Egyptians are rioting because 70% of their people barely have enough to eat and the police spend more time abusing the populace than protecting it. They aren't rioting over Internet fees. And neither will Canadians. It is too inconsequential. When a majority of Canadians are sleeping in shacks and starving, then maybe you will see rioting in Toronto. But not before then.


Brownbay
Premium
join:2005-03-13
North York, ON
reply to DKS
@DKS,

You make it seem as though the CRTC is unbiased and uninfluenced by the government... that's definitely not the case.

Most here might now know that the CRTC is stacked with ex-telecommunication executives.


Bill Neilson
Premium
join:2009-07-08
Arlington, VA
reply to dynodb
said by dynodb:

This is exactly the sort of thing one should expect when the government is given broad powers to regulate ISPs.

Yes, I am sure the Internet companies are OUTRAGED at this plan

The big, bad government is completely screwing the ISP's in Canada

The idea of AT&T, Verizon, and others have 100% ability to do whatever, whenever, however should scare everyone

Me and others wanting the government to put in regulations to help consumers is NOT wanting "complete government overhaul" or other laughable over-exaggerations that certain people cry about 24/7 all the while ignoring the actual regulations being offered

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

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reply to dynodb
said by dynodb:

said by heat84:

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

This is exactly the sort of thing one should expect when the government is given broad powers to regulate ISPs.

If you eliminated the CRTC and all regulatory agencies, what would prevent Bell et al from doing this in the first place?

The government didn't "mandate caps". Why don't you learn something about the situation before spouting your rhetoric?


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
reply to trainwreck6
said by trainwreck6:

It's time for us to get Egyptian.

Go ahead. It's too damn cold around here.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
Premium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
reply to Brownbay
said by Brownbay:

@DKS,

You make it seem as though the CRTC is unbiased and uninfluenced by the government... that's definitely not the case.

It is not, conspiracy theories and ignorant comments by unknowing people aside. It operates at arms length from the government.

Most here might now know that the CRTC is stacked with ex-telecommunication executives.

And that means? You apparently have never heard of Conflict of Interest laws in Canada.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care.


Brownbay
Premium
join:2005-03-13
North York, ON
Right. Conflict of Interest laws...

That's why we're having UBB come into effect March 1st.

There should not be a single ex-telecommunications employee with a seat on that commission. If anything, it should be staffed with policy experts who then consult a 3rd party information sources to vet facts submitted by parties in a dispute.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
reply to dynodb
said by dynodb:

said by heat84:

Break out the pitch forks and torches and lynch the corporate bastards!

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

And who do you think bought the government? yes! BELL!
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The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $25? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to dynodb
said by dynodb:

Except it's not the "corporate bastards" who mandated the caps, it's the Canadian government.

And who do you think was pulling the strings there? Consumers? Ha, ya, right. Just like here, in the USA....
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini


FFH5
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
reply to Brownbay
said by Brownbay:

There should not be a single ex-telecommunications employee with a seat on that commission. If anything, it should be staffed with policy experts who then consult a 3rd party information sources to vet facts submitted by parties in a dispute.

And where do you think you get telecommunications experts that have never worked for or contracted for a telecomm or cable company or a telecomm hardware manufacturer? If you can actually find a couple, chances are they really aren't experts, but mere poseurs, or lawyer policy experts which is even worse.