criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY Reviews:
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Re: February 2011 Sprint 4G WiMax speeds said by espaeth:It's the same system - Sprint doesn't manage the tower radios. I don't question that is the case. What I DO question is whether there is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER between the way Sprint 4G customers are managed/throttled versus the way Clear 4G customers are managed/throttled. The anecdotal evidence both on this forum and elsewhere indicates there IS a difference.
Could it be coincidence? I guess. Might it be a statistical quirk? Perhaps. But it is incontrovertible that the online evidence, in fora and otherwise, indicate that the two companies APPEAR to be managing/throttling their 4G customers differently. Yes, the evidence might be flawed, and in-depth analysis might refute that evidence. But that such evidence does indeed exist there can be no doubt. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
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1 edit | said by criggs:The anecdotal evidence both on this forum and elsewhere indicates there IS a difference. The reports are ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS without usage statistics tied to it.
Search here, search over at the Clear forums and it's very evident that if you're pushing to consume 50+GB/mo you have a reasonably high probability of encountering the throttle. You know this because folks are posting over and over again what their usage patterns are that are triggering their encounter with the cap, and management is correlating in the threads with details about tower usage.
Unless folks with Sprint start posting that they are reaching the same known source conditions for triggering the cap, you can't draw any conclusion whatsoever. The base of participation in the Sprint forums is too small, and the quantity of known data is even smaller. |
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY Reviews:
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| said by espaeth:The reports are ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS without usage statistics tied to it.
Search here, search over at the Clear forums and it's very evident that if you're pushing to consume 50+GB/mo you have a reasonably high probability of encountering the throttle. Are we sure about that? It seems to me that I've read stories from Clear victims about bumping into the throttling not because they themselves were heavy users but because their TOWER was being overutilized. And if tower over-utilization is a major factor/trigger, then throttling would be just as likely to affect, and to be reported by, normal users as heavy users. |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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| said by criggs:Are we sure about that? It seems to me that I've read stories from Clear victims about bumping into the throttling not because they themselves were heavy users but because their TOWER was being overutilized. And if tower over-utilization is a major factor/trigger, then throttling would be just as likely to affect, and to be reported by, normal users as heavy users. Again, it's all about perception of what constitutes a "heavy user." Clear positioned itself as an "unlimited" alternative to cable ISPs which have caps around 250GB/mo. When framed that way, it's reasonable that the average Clear subscriber wouldn't consider 50GB/mo to be "heavy" use.
Threads like this one are quite common on the Clear forums: »forums.clear.com/clearcom/topics···_all_day |
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY | And why don't similar threads show up on the Sprint forums page at »community.sprint.com/baw/communi···overview ? |
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Most Sprint users are folks with 4G phones, like the person who posted the speedtest results from their Android phone that you didn't recognize a few posts back.
Most of the threads in the Sprint forums are complaining about 4G coverage, which make complete sense in relation to mobile users who are looking to connect with their phones.
Also, Sprint never ran a "Replace your ISP with our service because unlike your ISP we're unlimited" like Clear did. When Clear launches in a market they have TV ads, mailers, newpaper inserts, etc, and all of their ads mention replacing your home ISP. Sprint primarily focuses on selling 4G as a faster mobile smartphone service, and as an enhanced business mobile data offering.
The services are positioned completely different from a marketing standpoint. |
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 HSDays
join:2007-11-26
Reynoldsburg, OH | reply to criggs
I'm seeing much better speeds than when I last posted in the January thread. I've removed the battery from my Overdrive and run it off AC only.
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Uploading a large email attachment, my sustained rate was about 0.24, or less than half of this. Still, much better than I had with EVDO. |
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My Unofficial Sprint 4G Speed's in Alabaster, AL tethered...
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY Reviews:
·Millenicom
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said by seaprobe:Uploading a large email attachment, my sustained rate was about 0.24, or less than half of this. Still, much better than I had with EVDO. Still, that's a problem on the upload side. Your minimum average upload speed should be .5 mbps or 500kbps. I just checked Sunnyvale on the Sprint coverage map, and most of it is not only covered by 4G but has the more powerful indoor (dark blue) coverage, so you almost certainly have a problem. If you check »coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?E···coverage , and put in your Sunnyvale street address, you'll know for sure if you're in an indoor, outdoor or NO-door(!) (i.e. 3G) area. But the odds favor indoor, considering the percentage of Sunnyvale that has 4G.
If the map confirms what I suspect, it's time you called Sprint; that upload is just not right. The upload speed is capped, yes; but it's capped at 1mbps, and you're only getting anywhere from a half to a quarter of that; that's not right. |
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| Thank you, criggs. Yes, I am in a blue area, and have three bars in my house. 4G was turned on in my block only a few weeks ago, and has improved from 2 to 3 bars since then (RSSI is now -73), so I have a strong signal.
I was also using a VPN to my company, and I can't say with confidence this was due to the 4G or to VPN concentrators overloaded, or the exchange server. Too many variables to lay the blame on Sprint. |
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I just recieved the 4g USB U9109 and the docking bay. I've been using it, and here is what i have been consistently getting so far
Now first of all, i am not in Seattle washington, I'm in NYC. Secondly, it is saying that my ISP is clearwire corp., when it should be saying Sprint PCS. I D/Led the driver from the sprint webpage and not the CD it came with. could that be an issue? my cd drive is not functioning properly at the momemt.
heres what i get when i change the server to new york, NY.
 Its looking better but still not where i want it to be. I called sprint and my first attempt was aweful. The woman i spoke seemed to have no clue as to what i was talking about and gave me a number to call that ended up being a fax number. I will try calling again tomorrow but if anyone here can help me that would be great. |
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Ok i put a post in the january speedtests well its not january anymore. I just got the 4g U1901 and the dockingbay to help boost the signal. Its the first day i've had it and heres what i got
Now this just looks aweful... First of all, i'm in NYC and the IP is in seattle, washington. Secondly it says the ISP is clearwire corp. I have 3bars on sprint smart view and i tried calling sprints customer hotline and it was a very unpleasant experience. The woman i spoke to sounded like she had no clue to what i was talking about. Then she gave me a number for activating new products and it was some sort of fax line.
I did read the post and i suppose i will have to try to get ahold of someone that knows whats going on. |
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY Reviews:
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said by Triptrailz :Secondly, it is saying that my ISP is clearwire corp., when it should be saying Sprint PCS. I noticed that your name has an @clearwire-wmx.net attached to it. How come?
said by Triptrailz :I D/Led the driver from the sprint webpage and not the CD it came with. could that be an issue? Frankly, I doubt it, but others here may have more to say on that.
said by Triptrailz :I will try calling again tomorrow but if anyone here can help me that would be great. About the only thing I can suggest assumes you have a Windows XP-or-earlier computer, in which case you can take advantage of the Tweaks-DrTCP pages on this web site. In addition, others on this site have a lot of experience with external antennas, which could also help with your issue. Other than that, there's really not much you can do, except hope you find a Sprint Tech Support person who can find it with a rake.
And, just to keep this thread on track, here's what I'm getting today:
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arjj
join:2007-02-06
Newton Center, MA | reply to criggs
That was my reading this morning, but there's a story behind this, one that's ready to turn me into a flat-earther.
I had become convinced that my problem was CINR, that the number of lit bars on the modem is less important to speed than the quality of the signal. After LOTS of googleing, I found a post from someone in Charm City who found that a) the modem was HIGHLY sensitive to position (rotating as little as 5 degrees) and b: putting tin foil 1/4" away from the front of the modem greatly increased the CINR readings.
He was able to get his as high as 35dB. I was starting with a CINR of 11dB with my p-poor speed results, and after an hour of tinkering, I got my CINR up to 17 dB with the results above. My ping scores dropped by 100 ms and my up/download speeds tripled.
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This is a new comp that came with Vista already installed. I did notice that My name had clearwire-mxe.net on it and i have no clue as to why it would say that. I do not have an email with clearwire. Sorry about that double post, the last post was actually submitted a few hours before the one right before it. any help would be great. |
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mojo1
join:2006-12-05
Atlanta, GA | reply to criggs
Things are looking like they are getting back to normal here.
On a side note, I have cut the cord and am relying solely on my 4G connection for web and TV. I am moving at the end of the month and thought now would be a good time to try it. So far, so good. My VOIP works well (not perfect) and Netflix and Hulu streaming are great. |
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY Reviews:
·Millenicom
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said by triptrailz :This is a new comp that came with Vista already installed. In that case, don't even bother with the Tweaks and DrTCP and all that jazz; it's irrelevant for Vista and Windows 7.
Which just leaves you the external antenna option, I'm afraid, about which I'm the wrong guy to ask, sorry. |
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criggs
join:2000-07-14
New York, NY | reply to triptrailz
Hey, Triptrailz, have you taken a look at your CINR? Arjj may be on to something! Take a look at his postings today!! |
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heres what i'm getting now... Still says i'm in seattle. My CINR score ranges anywhere from 12-18. I went to maxmind.com for more info and heres what i got
Your IP Address 50.12.18.75
Countries United States
Region NY (New York)
US Area Code 718
US Metro Code 501
Global Cities Bronx
US Zipcode*
Latitude/Longitude 40.8499/-73.8769
ISP Clearwire Corporation
Organization Clearwire Corporation
Netspeed Cable/DSL
Domain Name clearwire-wmx.net
I'm moving into manhattan in 3 days so i hope this all changes. My ISP is not clearwire. Why is my domain name clearwire-wmx.net... I'm going to try this on my laptop and i'll post what i get... |
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