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gatorkram
Need for Speed
Premium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:3
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·Suddenlink

Where does Suddenlink stand on upstream channel bonding?

I am sure most of you remember the news last year, that Comcast was testing upstream channel bonding. They were getting speeds of around 75mbit.

We have seen wonderful progress and updates over the last year or so, with the introduction of D3 service, and countless other upgrades.

Now the question begs, what about upstream?

I know in some areas of the country, you can get Comcast business connections, over cable, in excess of 100mbit down, and 10mbit up.

Where is Suddenlink on this front?
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gatorkram
Need for Speed
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Suddenlink

On a related, but sad note, the SL site still only shows 15mbit max available at my address, when I already have 50.

It's almost like they don't want to sell faster speeds...

»www.suddenlink.com/internet/speed.php
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DXP

@suddenlink.net
reply to gatorkram

From what I understand, they prolly wont do upstream bonding. Very few residental account holders are asking for faster upload speeds. Those few is prolly not a big enough demand for the cost of equiptment.

What I have heard is that they are or very shorlty will be installing EPON systems for commercial accounts. Depending on their configuration, the Min speeds that can be achevied is 1/1 Gbit/s, Max is 10/10 Gbit/s



gatorkram
Need for Speed
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Suddenlink

said by DXP :

From what I understand, they prolly wont do upstream bonding. Very few residental account holders are asking for faster upload speeds. Those few is prolly not a big enough demand for the cost of equiptment.

What I have heard is that they are or very shorlty will be installing EPON systems for commercial accounts. Depending on their configuration, the Min speeds that can be achevied is 1/1 Gbit/s, Max is 10/10 Gbit/s

Sooner or later, they will have to offer faster upstream speeds.

I don't know what other technologies are in the pipeline, but I expect D3 to be around for some time.

What new equipment are you talking about? They have already done D3 upgrades in my area. Are you saying they need even more upgrades and new equipment to offer upstream channel bonding? That is not my understanding.
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DXP

@suddenlink.net

You need the right equipment at the head end to receive a bonded upstream signal from your modem.

What you said earlier is that Comcast business offered the 10 up For a business that would be normal. But normal home users dont really complain about the upload, they just want download.

Most cable company's are running EPON systems which is basically fiber to X for the business account's that need faster Download/Upload speeds that the current docsis 3 network cant provide. Not only is it more cost effective, but it can achieve speeds that Hybrid Fiber/Coax systems couldn't even dream about.



moldypickle

join:2009-01-04
Haughton, LA
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to gatorkram

let's not forget modems. there are some D3 modems out that can't bond upstream, and are maxed at 4 down stream.

i mean, not that this is any massive problem right now. i only get a bottleneck when i'm sharing a couple gigs w/ a friend or try to host a large ventrillo get together (which i probably shouldn't on residential anyways)


areacode304

join:2006-08-26
WV
reply to DXP

said by DXP :

Very few residental account holders are asking for faster upload speeds.

If that is, in fact, true (and I cannot confirm that it is), I'd guess that the reason that most people believe only those involved with piracy (Bit Torrent, what have you) could need more upload speed. People with a modicum of intelligence can see right through that nonsense, but those people aren't the ones making decisions.


DXP

@suddenlink.net

Im not saying this as a fact, but if you look at the big picture of account holders, how many really care about upload speeds?

Yes upload speeds are important, but more than 5 Mbit/s.. For what???

From what I understand, the 107/5 service is available in the WV area, but this is not confirmed.

Most people that I work for want fast downloads and non buffered streaming video. ie. Netflix, Blockbuster, and of course... Porn.

FYI The people who used alot of the upload bandwidth back in the day is a big reason the letters started being mailed and address's blacklisted. (Torrent Seeders) And I bet It freed up alot of bandwidth, upload and download.

That is exactly why I have a Seedbox and use encrypted FTP connection with my 20 meg account...


daroy990

join:2007-08-25
Lubbock, TX

Lol, have fun paying for you seedbox, my computer runs 24/7 pushing 1TB+ a month and never a peep.



DXP

@suddenlink.net

To each his own...

My ISP will blacklist me for any copyright material. Not only that, my life dont revolve it anyways. 1 TB???? Really.... I BOW to my Geek God... Lol

I just use it for Movie, Music ect..

Money is not any issue for me like it may be for others though....



gatorkram
Need for Speed
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to gatorkram

Anyone who is into streaming any type of live video, such as game play, webcams, etc, will want more bandwidth.

These types of things will become more and more common.

Sites like ustream.tv and justin.tv and even to a lesser extent youtube.com will get more and more popular, and more and more mainstream, and your average users will begin to see the light, much like most have on downstream speeds.
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MWOW

@xirvik.com

I cant really see any issue with my setup on a 2Meg upload. I have 8 IP security cams streaming to online site 24/7. With a couple pc's usually running and kids playing ps3, and me on Wow with ventrillo and webcam. I personally have not had any issues.

Like DXP said, not to many people are looking at upstream expect a limited few setups, business or SOHO people trying to use residential accounts then complain about it.

I have not seen anyone create a thread about slow upload speeds yet.

But SL should start investing into newer technology not only for commercial, but residential as well. Hate to say it, but Armstrong is a smaller mom n pop shop cable system. And they are light years past what ALOT of of the top ten MSO is right now. And they have been for a while now.