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 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
| So has anyone noticed the problem of throttling with Skype? I used to be able to Skype without issue.. worked fantastic... ever since Rogers started the new thottle of downloading I've had issues with Skype, Camfrog and programs like Logmein and RDP.
And now Rogers comes back and says thats "Ok" becuase they WARNED us about it on their website? COME ON... This has got to stop... |
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| I've noticed that my Skype video calls have been losing packets during transmission.
I talk to my wife every evening over Skype and she's been complaining about my video "freezing" pretty often. This sounds like it could also be part of the same problem that WoW/SC2/BNet players have been having. |
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·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Exactly... this has got to stop... If you want to throttle bittorrent.. then fine.. I don't agree with it but that's their choice but throttling legitimate programs like Skype, Camfrog, RDP and Loginme... Come on.... Rogers is just fucked in the head.. Whats next? Netflix? That way you can't get any HD content and get autothrottled down to SD only? |
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| reply to Trencher
»www.ccts-cprst.ca/en/
Rogers CANNOT interrupt/modify VOIP (Skype) traffic in anyway. |
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resa1983
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:1 Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| CCTS does nothing. When I submitted my complaint, they sent me a response stating that due to my complaint having to do with how Rogers manages internet applications, they couldn't assist me, but they're glad to forward my concerns to Rogers...
Which they already had... And were ignoring. |
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| reply to randomzero
Oh but they do... the audio seems to work fine its the video protocal thats being throttled.. People will say my video pauses or doesnt show up at all... I can view other peoples video fine but my own gets all scrambled. |
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 corsterPremium
join:2002-02-23
Ottawa, ON
·TekSavvy Cable
 ·WIND Mobile
 ·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Sympatico
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to Trencher
For Something like this, you need to complain to the CRTC.
They're already chasing Rogers for answers. Keep the pressure on them and they'll go back for more. If people don't keep complaining to the CRTC, they won't have anything to question Rogers about.
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resa1983
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:1 Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Can try emailing patrick.owens@crtc.gc.ca
His email was the one in the CRTC to Rogers letter about the ITMP, stating to contact him if they have questions..
I know it was meant for Rogers, but at the same time this has to do with this whole ITMP mess, so he should be able to incorporate this into the existing complaint against Rogers. |
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| reply to Trencher
Just recently (maybe a week or so) I have noticed throttling when trying to download from Hotfile & Fileserve!
I can't believe this. I thought with download cap we wouldn't have to worry about this! |
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| said by ashblack :Just recently (maybe a week or so) I have noticed throttling when trying to download from Hotfile & Fileserve!
I can't believe this. I thought with download cap we wouldn't have to worry about this!
Some ISP's now classify HotFile and RapidShare and others to be P2P, when they are not. But it is real hard to find an ISP that has a disclosure of, "the act of censoring(slowing) a targeted website", via dedicated throttling. Other than the disclosure of "throttling of non-priority traffic during congestion".
People do pay for the Digital Lockers to store non-infringing files, and get rather ticked when they can't download or upload at the connection speed available(user or website speed).
Someone one day is going to track how fast their Windows update is coming down, and if it's throttled too, they may contact Microsoft and have them do the paperwork on "targeted website" throttling practices.
At least Comcrap in the States is now throttling specific users, during congestion. Well, after they got caught hacking users data streams to insert "end transmission commands", that is(to stop P2P). Kind of like how Rogers is inserting system notices and hijacking DNS lookups, to send the user to a Ad laden search page, when a error(page/site not found) happens.
It's interesting to see a tracert to a site that does not exist. So instead of a site not found error, the tracert shows a path through the DNS redirect of the big bad ISP.
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Consumer Rights is more than just a suggestion. |
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 StewyPremium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to randomzero
said by randomzero:Rogers CANNOT interrupt/modify VOIP (Skype) traffic in anyway. the problem with Skype is that it acts like a P2P node and if you send a file it's basically doing peer to peer. So it's not entirely the telecom's fault.
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Telecommunications Act PART III s.27.(1) Every rate charged by a Canadian carrier for a telecommunications service shall be just and reasonable. |
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| said by Stewy:said by randomzero:Rogers CANNOT interrupt/modify VOIP (Skype) traffic in anyway. the problem with Skype is that it acts like a P2P node and if you send a file it's basically doing peer to peer. So it's not entirely the telecom's fault. »www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2009/2009-657.htm
Telecom Regulatory Policy CRTC 2009-657
125. In the case of time-sensitive audio or video traffic (i.e. real-time audio or video such as video conferencing and voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) services), ITMPs that introduce delays or jitter15 are likely to cause degradation to the service. The Commission considers that when noticeable degradation occurs, it amounts to controlling the content and influencing the meaning and purpose of the telecommunications in question.
126. Accordingly, the Commission finds that use of an ITMP resulting in the noticeable degradation of time-sensitive Internet traffic will require prior Commission approval under section 36 of the Act. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand | reply to Trencher
I would be surprised if they do throttle it, they want you using their home phone, and not Skype, no profit in Skype for them.
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StewyPremium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to King Nerd6
I use Skype daily and have no problems whatsoever. |
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| reply to Trencher
I just wanted to add in here my experiences with Voip (the one available through gmail).
I don't like using up my cell phone minutes, so because I have internet, I chose to do all my outgoing calls through the gmail service. It's very convenient, but often has troubles. I wasn't sure if it was the gmail service itself, or possibly my headset. Whenever myself and the party I was speaking with would speak at the same time, everything became extremely staticy. This was rather annoying, but worked alright.
Then we moved to Bell. I've made a few calls with the gmail service and have found that the line is actually quite clear, regardless of who's talking. So it seems Bell doesn't throttle any type of Voip connection..
Unfortunately, I've also found that Bell delays certain types of traffic. The most noticeable one would be streaming video. Various websites (youtube being the main one) would often load within a few seconds of clicking play (the loading times did unfortunately start to get longer in the recent months, however) but on Bell, it quite often takes 10-20 seconds for the video to actually show up, and then another 10-20 seconds to start playing.
So I guess I've traded one annoyance for another..? |
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| reply to Trencher
I thought it was just my neighbourhood, I've had the same probs. And Rogers has the audacity to upsell home phone to me :|
Precisely the reason I'm afraid to try Netflix (that and the shared cap at my place). |
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