Posted the same thoughts while I was gathering notes. Seems we're mostly on the same page.
> I think at least having batman and joker as independents makes sense within the batman theme.
Balance wise I don't think it makes sense. One is probably mafia and one independent. A timed agenda is something I've only seen on a thirdparty role. But, if batman is mafia, he's a dumbass for killing theRul, since he had pretty obviously crumbed that role.
1) interesting, how did therul know for sure that players do not know what character they are.
2) dez crumbed bomber/joker. Any chance joker is pro-town?
3) my hunch is that batman / joker are NPCs (why I voted dez) but this is wild speculation.
Complete FUD and epic fail on the vote.
All Kris games have been played this way for a while.. We get the flavor text, but not the aligned role.. It's an anti breaking way to set up the games, which has been the norm here for a while.. The antagonists might know, but the protagonists likely won't.
I think the joker is thirdparty, with a time limit as I've simply never seen anything other than a technical win for mafia, but I have seen third party win conditions.
Additionally, why the kill on Ekster? Seemed mostly harmless, although the role said otherwise to mafia.. Why? It was the only claimed, provable role at the time.
Summary: IMO, Joker is third party and has to get five kills or live for five days (???), but if he hits batman, he done, so he's making safe kills.
If the rest of town has bad guy roles, batman and sidekicks would be mafia? I don't know my DC comics enough to decipher an identity from my role description, so I can't tell if I'm a hero or villain..... Actually, I think I might know who I am and if I'm right it is a villain.
So, (ostensibly) town is all villains, batty & friends are mafia, joker is third party. Am I missing something? Just thinking out loud trying to make sure I understand what we're facing.
If the rest of town has bad guy roles, batman and sidekicks would be mafia? I don't know my DC comics enough to decipher an identity from my role description, so I can't tell if I'm a hero or villain..... Actually, I think I might know who I am and if I'm right it is a villain.
So, (ostensibly) town is all villains, batty & friends are mafia, joker is third party. Am I missing something? Just thinking out loud trying to make sure I understand what we're facing.
Son of a bitch I'm home sick again.... bronchitis now. I thought it was a good idea to run a 5K and hang out with a girl when I was just getting better, and she had a cough but somehow I overlooked it...
OK, I am here today, been busy as hell, we have dicked up security groups for our share drive here at work, so i am non stop on the phone or adding and removing people. grrr stupid people.
1) interesting, how did therul know for sure that players do not know what character they are.
2) dez crumbed bomber/joker. Any chance joker is pro-town?
3) my hunch is that batman / joker are NPCs (why I voted dez) but this is wild speculation.
1) It's been discussed an-nausuem about how Kris sets up games.
2) That's been clarified to a degree.. and why the Joker in this setup would crumb the fact they are joker is beyond me. Basically same for a bomb.
3) Some theories on the setup have been put forth, and there is some consensus on it, although some questions remain. Yet, you declare the prime anti factions (Yes, some of us believe there are two, with balance questions), are, in fact, NPC's..
It's also contradictory to question Dez claiming Joker in #2 when you put forth the theory that Joker is NPC in #3.
man seriously you expect us to let all your crap slide? I think you need to give a little more than it is a "silly" mistake, sounds like the talk of the joker to me. vote:Avd
I seem to be totally lost in this game due to RL issues at work, and i am trying my best to keep up and pay attention. have a 3 day weekend, so everything should calm down next week, and i can particiapate more.
so for now, i am just going to help the wagon keep rolling, until i can catch up and see if there is anything else that sticks out.
vote avd
sorry about the wagon vote, i usually don't but just trying to get some things moving so maybe i wont' be lost.