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reply to Kristopher

Re: [game] I'm Batman! Day 4

I'm pretty sure that if you're night killing / jailing people that you're going to show up as leaving the house. I'd have to believe every mafia member will show as leaving the house during a kill/lockup.

Otherwise that's an easy way to not be detected with people that have such a power.
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Surely you have been mafia before, or at least understand how the game works. Lets say there are two mafia, lets give them names just for fun, lets say it is chlen and meningitis.

Lets say meningitis’ role is a passive one, or a day role, or a power that has been previously used up.

If chlen put in the night kill, meningitis will do nothing over night, and a watcher watching his house would not see him going out. Not going out does not make him town, it just mean that night he didn’t take an activity.
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reply to Kristopher
i don't know if it would work that way with mafia, since they are usually conisdered to meet at night time. i wish i had watched bigreds42 with him being the only mafia so far, it would give me a better perspective of what happens when i watch someone. (other than town)
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reply to Dezbend
Yes I've played this game before, and what you're saying still makes no sense to me.

Does mafia not kill collectively? Independent powers aside of course. Sure there are other ways of going undetected, I'll give you that... but not like you're saying.

If I'm mafia, and someone is jailed/killed even if I'm not giving the order, will I not show as leaving the house? I think so, what the hell good is a tracker role otherwise? For the off chance that you catch the 1 mafia doing the killing?
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I will answer your question with a question…

If a role blocker blocks a mafia member, is the kill prevented, or does the role blocker have to target the person doing the killing?
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I don't know the answer to that.

I'm still going to stand by my belief that all mafia will show as leaving their houses to a tracker-type role.
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reply to Kristopher

reply to Kristopher
you are all crazy.

Gomez is the only one who makes any sense, and I believe tmodelt's claim.

so I am moving to think that tmodelt, gomez, and I are goodies.

thus men, chlen, and navy are baddies. I don't want to lynch the joker as that would win it for the mafia after a night kill. I don't know who is who.
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reply to Kristopher
Ok after knowing who I protected last night. We have 2 options either whoever chose not to kill anyone or They tried to Kill Navy and I protected him from it. I am almost willing to look at the second option and say Navy was the killers target. Let me know what you guys think about this?

reply to Meningitis
his targeted questioning shows he wants to understand what is going on before he votes... usually a sane thing to do.

who is on your bad list (besides me)?
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reply to tmodelt
I still haven't wrapped my head around the two kills per night.

I started out thinking it was town one-off kills + batman, but Joker kill + batman kill is probably more likely (here is another example of what gomez said to me that made sense!).

so yes you probably protected him, but not from batman, so that does not mean he is not mafia, but probably not joker.

Would you please protect me tonight?
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hang on, I have to go back through the dead town roles... didn't we have some killers that could account for the extra deaths... brb
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Krisnatharok was Killer Croc and had one kill.

Ekster was killed by a “very sharp knife”

Krisnatharok was killed by “multiple stab wounds”

Krisnatharok could have killed Ekster or killed himself via a nexus or busdriver type role… but who killed the other?

So yes we have another killer alive (joker?), who has only struck once.

Is this because it was a one-off kill or were they stopped twice?
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reply to Kristopher
A few thoughts in summary:

Dez: I'm assuming Krisen killed Atony on day 1.

tmodelt: Curious about the protection last night. Why not Protus? He seemed to most useful known role at the time.

Men's understanding of how things work is flawed. One only needs look at any of the player/action matrixes that game mods post in order to see it's on a player by player basis. Don't like this 'lack of knowledge' being used to quantify his alignment in the future, given that future has a strong possibility of not happening.

Additionally I did some research over lunch. The following is useful: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ba···aracters.

Interestingly, the Batman roles (yes, multiple) specifically states that Batman died and came back to life. ("[....] After returning from his apparent death and disappearance at the hands of Darkseid,[...]"). There is also a villain resurrection, So mapping a lazurus type role to a character could go either way.

P.S. We've got a major system upgrade planned for tonight, so I'll likely be away for times.
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reply to Kristopher
Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 4

tmodelt - 1 - navyet2sw (L-3)
Dezbend - 1 - Meningitis (L-3)

Players not voting: chlen, Dezbend, Gomez, tmodelt
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reply to Kristopher
Upgrade done. No causalities

Additional thoughts.

On the above, while the lazurus role could go either way, I'm inclined to believe it's town.

From todays game play Men is bad. To much FUD, future validation.. I general a very bad vibe.

My two leading candidates were Dez and Menigitis. Dez because the the claim is the perfect cover. Thus the questioning yesterday.

But the recollection of the early confusion seems to make that gambit have some low probability. Every time I think Dez has some elaborate scheme behind his fake claim, I'm wrong. So I'll go with guts and write it off.. Kudus to you sir if I'm wrong.

The more likely scenario is Meningitis is the Joker/Bomber, and is justifiably concerned with the win tomorrow, and wants the Dez lynch as he's a threat. Thus the vote. (Mafia goon(s), please take note).

That vote is also possibly the swing vote on the vote train FOS to Navy last night on his vote. (P.S. Men, it's well known I play at night usually between 7 and midnight.. I didn't just 'go away' as you suggested, I went to bed.)

The concern as mentioned above is the tmodelt claim. There was a discussion with protus about his ability and his intent to use it to try to delay things. A competent Doc would have picked up on that and protected him. That didn't happen. What did happen could very well be CYA claim.

Open to discuss.
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I am the Doc so believe what you want to. I find it funny that you keep letting Dezs play slide. Are you protecting your partner? The only thing that confuses me about it is you say him and Men are Scum so I am now wondering if you are throwing your partner under the bus or just moving attention off you.