| How much bandwidth in a day? Anybody have any idea how much bandwidth Vonage would use in 1 day all by itself? I know it makes the light on my modem flash light a madman!! Of course, I'm on cable internet, so it's going to flash anyway.
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| said by cork1958:Anybody have any idea how much bandwidth Vonage would use in 1 day all by itself? I know it makes the light on my modem flash light a madman!! Of course, I'm on cable internet, so it's going to flash anyway.
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Attached is a graph of a 24 hour period for one of my Vonage adapters usage. Data collected from Netflow data on a WRT320N running DD-WRT.
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The Vonage controller should only make your modem access light flash when you are making/receiving a call, or if Vonage is sending you a firmware update. The occasional idle time handshaking between your ATA and the Vonage service is almost unmeasurable.
The amount of bandwidth you use when you are making/receiving a call can be adjusted from your Vonage Account Management site. You can adjust to use ~30 kbps, ~50 kbps, or ~90 kbps. For many people the difference in call quality in ~30 kbps and ~90 kbps is not noticeable. When I had two lines with one dedicated to voice service, and the other doing double duty as a voice and fax line, I used ~30 kbps for the voice line, and ~90 kbps for the fax/voice line (fax transmission needs the higher bandwidth). I only have one dual duty Vonage line at this time, and it is set for ~90 kbps because faxes require it. Even at the ~90 kbps setting you would need to be on the phone 24/7 to use as much data as a single typical streaming movie download.
My own subjective evaluation of the voice quality from the three settings is that the ~30 kbps setting is equivalent to a rural POTS line, the ~50 kbps setting is equivalent to a good POTS line, and the ~90 kbps setting is equivalent to an ISDN line.
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| said by NetFixer:The Vonage controller should only make your modem access light flash when you are making/receiving a call, or if Vonage is sending you a firmware update. The occasional idle time handshaking between your ATA and the Vonage service is almost unmeasurable.
The amount of bandwidth you use when you are making/receiving a call can be adjusted from your Vonage Account Management site. You can adjust to use ~30 kbps, ~50 kbps, or ~90 kbps. For many people the difference in call quality in ~30 kbps and ~90 kbps is not noticeable. When I had two lines with one dedicated to voice service, and the other doing double duty as a voice and fax line, I used ~30 kbps for the voice line, and ~90 kbps for the fax/voice line (fax transmission needs the higher bandwidth). I only have one dual duty Vonage line at this time, and it is set for ~90 kbps because faxes require it. Even at the ~90 kbps setting you would need to be on the phone 24/7 to use as much data as a single typical streaming movie download.
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My own subjective evaluation of the voice quality from the three settings is that the ~30 kbps setting is equivalent to a rural POTS line, the ~50 kbps setting is equivalent to a good POTS line, and the ~90 kbps setting is equivalent to an ISDN line.
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The ATA is a chatty device - constant data - see Neflow analysis above.. If you have doubts about this fire up wireshark and watch it in real time.
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1 edit | said by dellsweig:netfixer
The ATA is a chatty device - constant data - see Neflow analysis above.. If you have doubts about this fire up wireshark and watch it in real time.
I have enabled full logging in my RV082 router (through which my RTP300 feeds), and I also at one time fed other Vonage ATAs through another router which had a fancy graphic usage display, and when no calls were active, all I saw was a couple of handshake packets every few minutes.
Even if your chart was for 24 hours of idle time, a total of less than 4 MB per day with an average transfer rate of less than 400 bps is not likely to put anyone over their ISP's bandwidth cap or overtax their broadband connection's rate capacity.
I think it is safe to say that we have different definitions for a "chatty device - constant data". Now a modern networked Windows PC with all its network discovery and broadcast traffic (even if the PC is as idle as a Windows PC can get), that is a chatty device (which is one reason that I don't run any "modern" Windows PCs, and why I disable most of the useless chatty services and applications that MS insists on turning on by default). 
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| I have to agree that the adapter is a "chatty" device and I do turn off every unnecessary service I can in Windows. I DO NOT even do any local networking!
I do realize that just because the light is flashing as fast as it is, doesn't necessarily mean it's downloading or uploading that fast.
Don't think there is even such a thing as "slow" flashing, is there? I have cable internet, so it should flash some all the time anyway.
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| said by cork1958:I have to agree that the adapter is a "chatty" device and I do turn off every unnecessary service I can in Windows. I DO NOT even do any local networking!
I do realize that just because the light is flashing as fast as it is, doesn't necessarily mean it's downloading or uploading that fast.
Don't think there is even such a thing as "slow" flashing, is there? I have cable internet, so it should flash some all the time anyway.
If you are still talking about the cable modem activity light, then yes it is normal for it to be constantly flashing because the modem is constantly exchanging ARP packets with the cable network. If you want to look at an LED that will more accurately display real traffic to/from your Vonage ATA, look at its WAN/Internet activity LED (and/or your cable modem's LAN/Ethernet activity LED). Unless your ATA is much different than any Vonage ATA I have used, you will only see that LED blink once or twice every minute or so (a life time for a broadband connection) unless you are making/receiving a call, or a PC or other device behind it is accessing the internet. Browsing this forum for about 30 minutes, or visiting cnn.com of msnbc.com will likely use more bandwidth than an idle Vonage ATA will use in a 24 hour period.
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In case youre interested in the actual traffic breakdown for a typical 24 hour period - between your vonage adapter and the outside world......
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| You guys are both dead on and one heck of a help!! Not much going on this section of dslr as far as number of posts, but have gotten much better help here than in the official Vonage forums!!
The way my adapter is setup is hard to see the LED's on it, but after almost busting my back to get at it, it does only flash once in a while, which I thought would be the case.
Must be that I'm just not used to the activity light on modem since getting back on cable internet. Also, more people in my area are on it than there used to be when I was on it before.
As far as I'm concerned, this thread is closed/solved.
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Hi, I need information about sound quality features of polycom IP 321 and Polycom SoundStation IP6000 .Can you tell me something about this ?
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1 edit | First, if you really want an answer to your OT question, you may want to post it in your own thread in the appropriate forum instead of hijacking this (totally unrelated to your question) thread.
That said, I have several clients who use Polycom IP phones (although I am not sure that they use the specific models you ask about), and they are happy with the voice quality.
However, if you are planning on using those phones with Vonage, you are not likely to be successful (which was the point of my suggesting your own thread in another forum). To my knowledge, Vonage does not support any IP phone or ATA that they do not themselves sell.
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Even though the boxes are chatty, the nature of the protocol used by devices on Vonage or TeleBlend and the such calls for a very low payload on the heartbeats that show they are chatty. The data consumption is insignificant. The only real consumption occurs when you are on a call. |
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| said by rdwarrior:Even though the boxes are chatty, the nature of the protocol used by devices on Vonage or TeleBlend and the such calls for a very low payload on the heartbeats that show they are chatty. The data consumption is insignificant. The only real consumption occurs when you are on a call.
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This is disturbing.....
We started using Vonage on March 24.
Today, April 9, I get notification that I'm 2GB over my 25GB cap.
I've lowered the default setting to 30kbps now.
I normally only use 2GB per month. This service is a data hog! |
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2 edits | said by AR:This is disturbing.....
We started using Vonage on March 24.
Today, April 9, I get notification that I'm 2GB over my 25GB cap.
I've lowered the default setting to 30kbps now.
I normally only use 2GB per month. This service is a data hog!
I suggest that you look somewhere other than your Vonage service for your bandwidth hog.
Even if you talked on the phone for 24 hours per day using Vonage's highest quality bandwidth setting, that would amount to 1.08 GB per day, so that would add at most 31 GB usage per month. There is no way that your Vonage service added 25 GB of usage in two weeks (even if someone were on the phone 24/7).
VoIP does have rather stringent requirements from your internet connection, but it is far from a bandwidth hog. Of course, if someone is talking on the phone 24/7...
Here is the math. I have started by rounding up the maximum Vonage bandwidth setting of 90kbps to 100kbps just in case your ISP is also including some additional overhead in their calculations:
100,000 bits per sec /8 = 12,500 bytes per sec
12,500 bytes per sec *60 = 750,000 bytes per minute
750,000 bytes per minute *60 = 45,000,000 bytes per hour
45,000,000 bytes per hour *24 = 1,080,000,000 bytes per day
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Toronto, ON | I'm completely inclined to believe you, given that we weren't even home for 3 days in the timeframe mentioned.
But I got an online notifier from Rogers about how I'm at 27GB usage now. I've never gone over 2-3GB. |
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| said by AR:I'm completely inclined to believe you, given that we weren't even home for 3 days in the timeframe mentioned.
But I got an online notifier from Rogers about how I'm at 27GB usage now. I've never gone over 2-3GB.
You need to be loking at your network and who (and how) its being used/abused.
First insure you dont have a neighbor leaching off your network.
Second - depending on your skill level and functionality in your home router, determining which IP addresses in your network are using the bandwidth.
A GREAT tool is outlined in the beginning of this thread - ManageEngine Netflow Analyzer (free). It allow you to visualize and report on usage by IP/port/destination for any user on your network. The screen shots show only my Vonage adapters but I can see the same type of reports for anyone on my network as well as the aggregate usage. If my ISP tells me I use X - I simply compare that to my netflow data.
Its not your Vonage adapter......
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said by AR:I'm completely inclined to believe you, given that we weren't even home for 3 days in the timeframe mentioned.
But I got an online notifier from Rogers about how I'm at 27GB usage now. I've never gone over 2-3GB.
There is no doubt you either have some spyware/malware communicating like a madman to the web or your wireless connection is being hijacked like a madman also!!
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Toronto, ON | I checked my router --- no hijacking.
Dunno about malware/spyware. Doubt that though. |
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Toronto, ON | reply to cork1958
Guys,
I think it is a Vonage problem because my router's traffic meter matches my ISP's calculator and I'm burning almost a gig a day.
And i checked -- nobody's hijacking my wi-fi connection. In a few days, I'll be able to turn off the adapter for a couple of days and observe if that stops the bandwidth usage. |
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