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gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL
reply to Skippy25

Re: Pathetic

said by Skippy25:

Third, your argument of WISP above is just silly. The entire reason WISP are even out there is because of the barriers of entry and the unwillingness of the incumbents to actually wire the places. So if they were required to do so WISP would no longer be needed and their worthless bandwidth would go away or be a perk on top of actual broadband.

That is probably one of the most arrogant comments I have ever read here. WE as WISP's are here because places exist that you can't wire and actually have a return on your investment. Like the guys 20 miles out of town down a dirt road, with a 2 mile long driveway. Cost to install with fiber for that one individual, a quarter million dollars or better.. I dont know about your WISP, but we have 6 meg plans, and I know of others that have 10-20meg (actual) plans.
We are also here, BECAUSE of incumbents that don't provide good service, have foreign tech support, don't care about "people" or their "families" and also don't even know the area we live in. We are here to serve people.. Oh, and guess what, almost none of us have ever gotten a dime from the Government. We built our networks from good old fashion business plans, conservity with our finaces, hard work, and customers that asked us to be in business. Go flippen figure Skippy25.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Call it what you want, but it is wireless and wireless will never compete with wired.

You substantiated my entire claim when you said "WE as WISP's are here because places exist that you can't wire and actually have a return on your investment."

I am not questioning your business plan nor how good or bad you may be. I am simply stating that the incumbents should have been before and should be now required to build out to ALL regardless of cost because they have received enough subsidies over the decades to do so.


gunther_01
Premium
join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

They have built to almost if not all.. its called telephone lines. That was USF's initial purpose. Just because it doesn't support "x"meg/sec. Isn't a fault of the telco's. But, that whole topic is much larger then that.



MEohME

@wideopenwest.com

totally agree with you gunther_01. Where I used to live was 10 miles out side of the city. We were lucky to get 14.4k dial-up and have it work. The area is STILL only lucky to get that unless you go to Hughes/WildBlue or a Cell Carrier. They have WISPs that are available now- but TWC and ATT will tell you that it is NOT cost bearable to wire that far out of the city and make any ROI. You get a telephone. you get Dish/DirecTV. But the fact is like you said; it will cost a good million+ to even get FTTH out there. And hope 5 people sign up- and that 5 people where ALL a half mile to over a mile apart.