| IPv6 on home routers and DSL/cable modems: FAIL "When it comes to IPv6 support, consumer home networking gear lags far behind other devices, like enterprise equipment and PC operating systems. Most devices certified as IPv6-compliant by the IPv6 Forum are full of implementation bugs, experts say.":
»www.networkworld.com/news/2011/0···l?page=1 |
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 rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
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14225-2105 | That's why you either roll your own (like I did) or upgrade your router with DD-WRT, Tomato, OpenWRT, etc. 
I personally would like to see ATA manufacturers and US VoIP providers to get rolling on IPv6. It's nigh on impossible at this time to find IPv6 support for either of these.
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| On Page 2 of the article, it is brought up that "Most of the low-cost consumer-grade routers of the last few years have insufficient memory to support an adequate set of IPv6 features..."; I assume that these limitations would apply even if open-source firmware was installed in place of the manufacturer's software.
Obviously, you can create a router which is far more powerful than the typical consumer-grade product by using a PC (with the appropriate software). Few consumers will be able and/or willing to do this, however, and I doubt that any ISP would advise a subscriber to build his/her own router. So, Joe and Jane Public will have to depend on whatever is available on the store shelves. |
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1 edit | Dang. That really is quite disappointing. It's especially sad that a company as big as Cisco doesn't support it, and the soonest they're even contemplating functionality is April. (Haven't they been supporting v6 in IOS for many years now?)
agree that not a whole lot are going to have the wherewithal like I did, and take a PC which is underpowered for most other tasks and support their Internet connection with it. Then again, despite a lot of advances in the past couple of years, I would say we're still really nowhere near computing gear being "plug it in and just works" sort of appliances, also despite outward appearances of it being like that. You find this out when one of your friends/relatives knows you're a "computer guy" (or gal as the case may be) and calls you up to ask you why their computer is acting weird or won't do X (whatever X is besides the window system ). Point is, the gear is quite technical, and on occasion requires a technician in order to know how to use it optimally.
The one thing I'm anxious to find out is whether TWC is just going to advertise prefixes, or if I'll have to figure out some way to get all my gear to do DHCPv6, and route and firewall things properly (expecting I might have to do some "interesting" things with scripting in conjuction with WIDE's DHCPv6 relay daemon).
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For most people here on the dslreports.com forums upgrading a dsl or cable modem/router would probably be ok (users here tend to be more tech savvy), but most consumers wouldn't know where to start.
I was pleased to see recently that at least one manufacturer (Buffalo) is advertising the fact that they are providing routers with dd-wrt pre-installed. The dd-wrt logo is prominently displayed on the front of the box (not hidden). It eliminates the guesswork whether or not the router is compatible with dd-wrt.
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 timcuthBraves FanPremium
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Pelham, AL | reply to daveinpoway
There is also the Netgear WNR3500L-100NAS preconfigured with dd-wrt.
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said by daveinpoway:On Page 2 of the article, it is brought up that "Most of the low-cost consumer-grade routers of the last few years have insufficient memory to support an adequate set of IPv6 features..."; I assume that these limitations would apply even if open-source firmware was installed in place of the manufacturer's software. If the router is capable of running Tomato or OpenWRT (eg 4 MB flash, 16 MB RAM), the it's capable of adequate IPv6 support. My house is connected with a 7-year-old WRT54G, and a native dual-stack connection with the ISP. The router has feature-parity between v4 and v6: both protocols are firewalled, QoS rules apply to both, ssh and http access are available via both, etc. (It's running a current git build of TomatoUSB.)
Of course, not all routers are capable of running Tomato or OpenWRT. Many of the *truly* low-cost, bargain-bin routers of the last few years have less flash and less RAM -- in which case, yeah, they probably cannot adequately support IPv6. |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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The Apple Airport Extreme supports IPv6 Tunnels, Routing, Host, and Link-Local out of the box.
Just set up my tunnel to HE last night. It was stupidly simple. |
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Pelham, AL | I looked at it at the Apple Store, last week. I wanted one, but it is quite expensive ($180).
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| said by timcuth:I looked at it at the Apple Store, last week. I wanted one, but it is quite expensive ($180).
You can get a refurbished one for $129 (1-year warranty).
»store.apple.com/us/browse/home/s···essories
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| On a good note, these days even consumer-grade routers are more than powerful enough to run v6.. Just enough flash and plenty of RAM in the $60-70 range. Flashing it with v6-capable 3rd party firmware might be a chllenge for your average "my cupholder is broke" Joe. ISP's are also compounding the issue a bit by pushing units that'll never run 6 onto their customers in order to cut down on the support costs. Most customers are just fine with generic modem-router combos.
It's not such a bad thing though. Most ISP's are working on deploying full production 6 and the bandaids will hold while 4 gets slowly phased out. |
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